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  • #16
    I have not been able to get it confirmed in any way that this was UN approved. Abkhazia, yes (I think) but not S.O.
    Originally posted by Serb:Please, remind me, how exactly and when exactly, Russia bullied its neighbors?
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    • #17
      UN approved or not, someone misunderstood their objective...
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      • #18
        Originally posted by Nikolai
        UN approved or not, someone misunderstood their objective...
        Or understood it too well
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        • #19
          I think its more a case of "understood" than of "misunderstood".

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          • #20
            The satellization process is on at a fast pace:



            Georgia president will have to run away, or will be killed.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by carnide_
              Another fine example of fine Bush leadership for the western world...
              The man is not good enough to be president of the USA!!
              I'm curious as to what you would propose that he do...
              I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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              • #22
                Nuke them all from orbit of course! What are you? A liberal?!
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                • #23
                  Puppet government now, annexation (via sham referendum) later.

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                  • #24
                    I'm curious as to what you would propose that he do...
                    Its not what he must do, its what he have done!!

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                    • #25
                      OK, then what do you propose that he should have done?
                      I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                      • #26
                        re: thread topic: i think that's what'll happen. there aren't many russians in southern ossetia so it looks like a weak excuse for a casus belli, and if defending the independence of southern ossetia would truly be the reason, Russia would honor the request for cease fire.

                        Originally posted by DanS


                        I'm curious as to what you would propose that he do...
                        not invade iraq and tie all US manpower into a neo-conservative wet dream of a massive US-taxpayer subsidized nation-building effort

                        oh snap

                        face it fanboy, your idol is a chump. he did nothing to ensure that US would still have deployable hard power when starting an invasion and occupation of an unknown (and undefined) length. he didn't ask for silence or more calm and diplomacy when his ally of a tiny country yelled "**** you" to a neighbouring major power (referring, f.e, to the way saakashvili handled the presidential elections this year) despite your idol knew that he couldn't do anything to help if **** would hit the fan. and now that it has, your idol hasn't done anything to indicate concrete support, immediate or upcoming, into a low-trained, shaky-morale army which is fighting a desperate war against an apparently well-planned invasion against a hostile country about 30 times it's size in population.

                        somewhere out there, pat buchanan is laughing at the administration's incompetence. everything bush could've ****ed up, he did.

                        to be fair, EU15 leadership makes an even bigger ass out of itself, not realizing what is happening and making half-hearted requests of end of hostilities "from both sides".

                        it's as if grown-up people have given up on politics in the western world. when compared to putin, our leaders look like clowns.
                        Last edited by RGBVideo; August 11, 2008, 16:01.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by VJ
                          he didn't ask for silence or more calm and diplomacy when his ally of a tiny country yelled "**** you" to a neighbouring major power (referring, f.e, to the way saakashvili handled the presidential elections this year) despite your idol knew that he couldn't do anything to help if **** would hit the fan.
                          To be fair you are misinformed Bush did call for an end to fighting and a negotiated solution on the first day of the conflict. He was as limp wristed as the Euroweenies. I don't like Bush either but credit where credit is due.
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                          • #28
                            If the west got involved, as Georgia is asking, it would just give carnide something different to stick his lower lip out over and pout.
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Oerdin
                              he didn't ask for silence or more calm and diplomacy when his ally of a tiny country yelled "**** you" to a neighbouring major power (referring, f.e, to the way saakashvili handled the presidential elections this year) despite your idol knew that he couldn't do anything to help if **** would hit the fan.
                              To be fair you are misinformed Bush did call for an end to fighting and a negotiated solution on the first day of the conflict. He was as limp wristed as the Euroweenies. I don't like Bush either but credit where credit is due.
                              yes, i know that bush did call an end to fighting and a negotiated solution. what does that mean in the real world? that he's not going to do anything. symbolic posturing for domestic audience, an illusion that politicians are needed in foreign policy.

                              i presume that you edit your post out when you actually read and understand the DanS'ed quote. saakashvili has been loudly and boldly yelling "suck my cheney" to Russia for the past 4 years or so, the time to ask for more calm and diplomacy from him was 4 years ago. he was probably counting on the presumption that US would save his ass if Russia would try to invade. and what world leader wouldn't, if a superpower giving overt munitions support would not warn them to keep lower profile when provoking a bigger neighbour?

                              diplomatic ****-up because of ignorance and simple lack of interest. routine in the bush administration

                              just to be clear, i'm not blaming bush for this. the way he treated his loyal ally (Georgia led by Saakashvili) is just another indication of the general incompetence of his administration

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                              • #30
                                This is not a Bush bashing tread!!



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                                Nough said!
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                                Back to topic:
                                The situation is now!
                                Is there ANY way to prevent Russin from satellizing Georgia?

                                The grim answer lurks in Tiblisi...

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