It's war.

[Saras]

old faithful...

[Dinner]

Originally posted by Serb


Êòî òóò èäèîò - âîïðîñ ñïîðíûé. ß íèêîãäà íå èñïûòûâàë ê òåáå íåïðèÿçíè, ñêîðåå íàîáîðîò. Äóìàþ, ÷òî òåïåðü ñ ýòèì ïîêîí÷åíî. Âñå âñòàëî íà ñâîè ìåñòà. Õîòÿ ïèâêà ñ òîáîé ÿ âñå ðàâíî òÿïíóë áû ñ óäîâîëüñòâèåì. Íå ìîãó ÿ òåáÿ íåíàâèäåòü, ÷òîáû òû íå ãîâîðèë. Òàêîé óæ ÿ èäèîò.

Make him stop posting in pig latin or ban him.

He does this all the time and seems to get away with it.

[Serb]

Originally posted by Saras
i disabled cyrillic, so eat my shorts.

Ok, I'll post the same then again:

Kto tut idiot - vopros spornyi. Ya nikogda ne ispytival k tebe nepriyazni, skoree naoborot. Dumaiyu, chto teper' s etim pokoncheno. Vse vstalo na svoi mesta. Hotiya pivka s toboi ya vse ravno tyapnul by s udovolstviem. Ne mogu ya tebya nenavidet', chtoby ty ne govoril. Takoi uzh ya idiot.

Now go ahead - disable Latin letters.

p.s. Òû êàê äèò¸ ìàëîå, íå çíàåøü ÷òî ëè ÷òî íà ëþáóþ âàøó çàïàäíóþ õèòðîñòü ó ðóññêèõ íàéäåòñÿ ñâîé íåàäåêâàòíûé îòâåò known as Russkaya smekalka.

[Serb]

Originally posted by Oerdin


Make him stop posting in pig latin or ban him.

He does this all the time and seems to get away with it.

Consider that a private message.
Ok, just for you I "translated" my post to Latin.

Enjoy.

p.s. We have a moderator here whose Russian is perfect, whenever I post something dirty on Russian again, I'll be a toast. So don't worry.

[Dinner]

I know exactly what language that is. The site rules say this is an English site so stop posting in nasty foreign languages. If you want to send a PM then send a PM and stop bothering the rest of us unless you intend to communicate in the Queen's English.

[Saras]

awww, an olive branch... how cute. but no thanks.

[dannubis]

Originally posted by Serb


We are the only ones who are trying to save them and to minimize the casuality rate among them.

Yeah right... because you Russians are notorious for your humanitarian actions.

All you want is to have a footstep into Georgia. Nothing more, nothing less.

[Wiglaf]

Russians ripping off Ghost Recon

Plot summary

The plot of this game has been discussed as an exemplification of the influence of various groups of anti-Castro Cuban exiles. [1]

[edit] Ghost Recon

Ghost Recon begins in August 2008, with civil unrest in Russia. Ultra-nationalists have seized power in Moscow, with plans to rebuild the Iron Curtain. Their first step is clandestine support of rebel factions in Georgia and the Baltic States. This storyline foreshadows the 2008 South Ossetia War. This is where the Ghosts come in: to silence the rebellion. Armed with some of the most advanced weaponry in the world, the soldiers of the Ghost Recon force are covertly inserted into Eastern Europe and given specific missions to curtail the rebel actions and overthrow their benefactors.

The game's storyline stems from political turmoil that came to light a few years earlier, in which the Ultra-nationalist regime came to power and placed its leader, Dmitri Arbatov, as Russia's president. By 2007, the threat posed by the Arbatov Administration became clear. Russia forms an alliance called the Russian Democratic Union (RDU), which is made up of the previously conquered countries of Ukraine, Belarus, and Kazakhstan. Together, they launch a campaign to revive the long-dissolved Soviet Union by taking back all of the former Soviet republics.

During the first few missions of the game, the Ghosts battle South Ossetian rebel forces from the north of Georgia, who are harassing the legitimate government and its allies. The Ghosts fight in the forests, on farms, and in villages while assisting their NATO allies in fighting the enemy. Unfortunately, the Russian government complains to the United Nations that the Americans have interfered in their affairs, and eventually they send in their army to aid the South Ossetian rebels. The U.S. cannot hope to stop the Russian Army from invading Georgia, so the Ghosts slow down the invading forces so that their allies can evacuate. Eventually, the Ghosts are all that's left of the U.S. forces in Georgia, and they evacuate by SH-60 Seahawk helicopter on the rooftop of the American Embassy in T'bilisi, just barely avoiding the Russian forces. The Georgian government flees to Geneva and sets up a government-in-exile. Sadly, with the fall of T'bilisi, Georgia surrenders and is forcefully incorporated into the RDU.

After Georgia falls, the Caucasus region is vulnerable to further attacks. The Georgian government, Great Britain, Germany, and the U.S. all protest the Russian invasion, but Moscow ignores this. Russia then focuses on invading the Baltic States on Lithuania, Latvia, and Estonia. In response to this, the Ghosts are sent behind enemy lines to find intelligence on the enemy attack. Unfortunately, the Russians launch their attack early and overrun the Baltic States within days. The Ghosts then are sent back in to slow the invasion down so NATO reinforcements can arrive from Germany. After cutting off the Russian reinforcements, the Ghosts fight alongside American forces to push the Russian Army out of the Baltics. Victories are won within the next months in Utena and Rezekne, and finally, NATO reaches Vilnius, Lithuania. The city was almost leveled after the invasion, but it is eventually liberated with some help from the Ghosts, forcing the Russian Army to abandon the invasion.

The loss of the Baltic states takes its toll on Russia. President Arbatov is blamed for the disaster and placed under house arrest, starting rumors about a coup de'tat. The Ghosts then run into Russia to free American and Russian POWs opposed to the government. Some time later, President Arbatov is executed. This sparks a rebellion all across Russia that borderlines on civil war. The Ultra-nationalists quickly lose the support of the people, and many members of the RDU are also liberated or quit the alliance. The Ghosts are then sent on a campaign to disable the combat capabilities of several Ultra-nationalist military bases, such as the naval base at Murmansk and the airbase at Arkhangel'sk. They destroy several subs and prototype aircraft, making Russian Forces combat ineffective in Naval and Air warfare. While the Ghosts are striking bases, the Ultra-nationalists engage in battle with American troops and Russian forces that are now opposed to the government north of Moscow. Unfortunately, the Ultra-nationalist forces detonated a nuclear bomb during the battle. This act of terror causes the Ultra-nationalist regime to lose all legitimacy in the international community, prompting an immediate invasion of Moscow.

After the Ghosts succeed in weakening the Russian fighting force, NATO forces launched an assault on Moscow, with the Ghosts spearheading the assault. By this time, the Ultra-nationalists have lost control of most of their territories, and the RDU was effectively dissolves. The remaining Ultra-nationalist forces holed up their tanks, snipers, Spetsnaz, helicopters, and artillery in the wooded areas surrounding Moscow as a last line of defense. However, the Ghosts break through the lines and clear a path for NATO forces. On November 10, NATO forces finally reach Moscow and are joined by friendly Russians. The city was partially deserted, as many Russians fled prior to the attack. The Ghosts were sent in to finish the job once and for all. After assisting NATO forces, the Ghosts attack Red Square. The Ghosts then proceed to wipe out the Russian defenders guarding the walls of the Kremlin. Without any remaining defenses, the Ultra-nationalists, led by Prime Minister Karpin, finally surrendered and both the Americans and the newly-liberated Russians celebrated their victory in Red Square. However, the world would feel the effects of the war for years to come.

Hopefully this means we'll get to take over Moscow. Bust out Windows 98 and show those ultra nationalist ****ers who's boss.

[DinoDoc]

You win the thread Wiglaf. I never played Ghost Recon, so I totally missed that.

[Serb]

Originally posted by PLATO
The problem, Pekka, with these "Russian Citizens" is that they were citizens of Georgia.

The problem, PLATO, with you and 99% of "Westerners" is that you don't know a damn about the history of the conflict. Damn, I bet most of you guys would never find South Osetia on the world map.
I tried to explain to you that Osetians were never citizens of Georgia. Read (and reply) my post above.

Russian gave Russian citizenship to anybody who applied from that region in order to be able to claim to defend "Russian Citizens" just like they are doing now.

Russians gave Russian citizenships to who applied from that region (total over 90% of its inhabitants) to ease the life of South Osetians. You have to understand that division between South and North Osetia was purely artificial and that when such division took place Osetian had no problem to visit each other, because they were citizens of the same state - USSR. When USSR has collapsed the people, their families were in one moment separated by new state borders. It's sort of North and South Korean issue - the same people who have relatives beyond the border.
Then Georgians canceled the South Osetian autonomy and invaded, murdered hell knows how many civilians and even after they were repelled and signed a ceasefire agreement, they still naturally blockaded the South Oseatia. Because it's surrounded by Georgian territory and the only way for South Osetians to survive (and their lands were absolutely devastated by the war,) was to rely on help from their Northern relatives (and relative ties are VERY, VERY strong at Caucasus, nowhere near to what you westerners understed under the relative ties) and on trade with the only country they still could trade - Russia. And it is much easier to cross the border if you are a citizen.

If Russia gave citizenship to everbody in Maine and Maine wanted to sucede and the US moved forces in to retake control, then Russia sure as hell would not be justified in invading there would they?

Can you imagine anyone in Maine who voluntarily ask for Russian citizenship? Can you imagine ANYONE, ANYWHERE to gain a foreign citizenship against his own WILL?
I can't. That should answer you question. Over 90% of South Osetians voluntarily get Russian passports when they had a chance to do so. Over 90% of South Osetians voted for independance from Georgia at referendum. Tens of thousands of South Osetian DIED defending THEIR land (and aside the Kosovo case, South Osetia is THEIR, Osetiasn's land, they are the native inhabitants of this land, aside Albanians in Kosovo) from inviding Georgians in 1991.
Think about that. And think why your media portrayed your own agressions versus Yuogoslavia and Iraq as "a right thing to do", while it portrays Russian efforts to protect its UN approved peacekeepers and South Osetian civilians from the Saakashvilii's GENOCIDE as "Russia invades Georgia", though so far no single Russian soldier are on Georgian soil. All the Russians are doing now - driving out Georgian inviders from the South Osetia to stop the genocide of civilians. The exact thing what a peacekeeping force should do.

[Serb]

Originally posted by Saras
awww, an olive branch... how cute. but no thanks.

Whatever. I won't appologize for what I've said. If you want to see me as Russian devil who eats babies for breakfast (as all Russians do), then let it be so.
No olive branch, no beer, no borsch for you.
Farewell.

[Saras]

you're not a devil - you're, hmm... too easily persuaded by your government.

[GePap]

Seems like the Russians have decided to go for broke and destroy as much of the Georgian military as possible by moving from Abkhazia and S. Ossetia into parts universally recognized as Georgian.

[DinoDoc]

Hands off our planes, Serb.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5i3OehGI9KkCKf8aXpxgzkF6ewA4AD92FHP7O0

[Serb]

Originally posted by Saras
you're not a devil - you're, hmm... too easily persuaded by your government.

What government? I did not vote for that government. And aside most of you I read sources from both sides of conflict. While you just swallow whatever your brainwashing media is feeding you and don't even attempt to analyze.
Sure the Russian sources are biased, but most of the western sources not only biased, but so obviously lying pieces of braiwashing propaganda.