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    Africa to get cheap fertility treatments
    July 8, 2008
    BARCELONA — Doctors are preparing to introduce a cheap in vitro fertilization procedure across Africa, where women are sometimes ostracized if they cannot have children.

    Millions of dollars go into family planning projects and condom distribution to prevent pregnancies in Africa, but experts said that more than 30 percent of women on the continent are unable to have children. An estimated 80 million people in developing countries are infertile worldwide.

    "Infertility is taboo in Africa," said Willem Ombelet, head of a task force at the European Society for Human Reproduction and Embryology studying infertility in developing countries.

    At a briefing Monday at the society's annual conference in Barcelona, Ombelet said he and colleagues were deciding where to test the new procedure. The cheap version of IVF costs less than $200; standard IVF treatments in the West cost up to $10,000.

    I don't know what to think of this. On a continent that doesn't seem to able to support the people it has, we're going to make it cheaper for them to have more.
    And why isn't this being offered to the infertil poor people in the US. They need children too.

    The money would probably be better spent on proper birth control methods or even.......

    Docs trained in adult male circumcisions
    By Joel Greenberg | Chicago Tribune correspondent
    July 8, 2008
    JERUSALEM — Inon Schenker, an AIDS prevention specialist, pulled out a medical logbook from a shelf and opened it to a page filled with handwritten entries.

    The notations, from 1993, recorded ritual circumcisions performed on Jewish men from the former Soviet Union at the height of the wave of Immigration to Israel from Russia and neighboring republics.

    The entries showed 32 circumcisions by a single doctor in a day's work, an assembly-line rate that Schenker believes shows the potential in Israel for helping combat AIDS in Africa, where recent studies have shown male circumcision to be a significant protective measure against the disease.

    In the heyday of Russian Immigration to Israel in the 1990s, about 1,000 adult male circumcisions a month were performed on newcomers in hospitals and clinics, in accordance with Jewish law.



    "Israel is the only country with such experience in mass adult-male circumcision, and it can respond to a very important humanitarian challenge," said Schenker, director of Operation Abraham, a project launched last year that dispatched Israeli surgeons to teach circumcision in Africa.



    Israel's experience vital
    Because it is obligatory under Jewish law, male circumcision is nearly universal in Israel and was stepped up as immigrants from the former Soviet republics sought the procedure to affirm their Judaism and ease their integration in the Jewish state.

    The ancient practice is mentioned in the Bible in a passage that describes how the patriarch Abraham circumcised his son at God's command.

    Jewish circumcision ordinarily is performed on newborns, but many of the immigrants hadn't been circumcised in their countries of origin for various reasons, such as estrangement from Judaism, restrictions on religious rites in the Soviet era and pressure to assimilate in gentile society.

    As the Russian immigrants flooded into Israel—about 1 million since 1989—the demand for adult circumcisions surged, and the country became a world leader in the field, with more than 80,000 procedures performed, according to various estimates.

    Schenker, who is with the Jerusalem AIDS Project, a non-governmental group that promotes HIV prevention, is working to marry the experience accumulated in Israel with the urgent need in Africa for effective programs to fight the AIDS epidemic.


    50% reduction in risk
    A link between circumcision and AIDS prevention was shown in three studies conducted between 2004 and 2006 in South Africa, Uganda and Kenya, which found that the risk of contracting AIDS in heterosexual sex is 50 percent to 60 percent less among men who are circumcised.

    The findings led the World Health Organization last year to recommend circumcision as an additional method for prevention of AIDS. WHO's recommendations were endorsed at a gathering of African health ministers.

    With the support of the Hadassah Medical Organization, which runs Israel's main university hospital in Jerusalem and has provided most of the budget and equipment, the Jerusalem AIDS Project sent three delegations of surgeons to teach adult circumcision in Swaziland. The southern African nation has the highest prevalence of AIDS in the world — 26 percent in a population of about 1 million.

    "This is part of Hadassah's mission: outreach to other places," said Dr. Shlomo Mor-Yosef, director general of the organization.

    The Israeli surgeons visited Swaziland twice last year and again in February, training 10 local doctors in adult male circumcision and two others in the procedure on newborns. The Israeli teams included an Israeli Arab doctor with experience in Muslim ritual circumcision.

    Prudence Mkhatshwa, chief nurse in male circumcision at the Family Life Association of Swaziland, a non-governmental group that partnered with the Israelis, said the training had helped to significantly raise the weekly rate of adult circumcisions and that the public response is growing. The procedure, conducted under local anesthesia, was first offered in Swaziland in 2006.

    "Before, people were scared, but now they see the benefits and they are more willing to do it," Mkhatshwa said from Mbabane, the Swazi capital. She said street billboards are promoting circumcision, in addition to condom use and abstention from casual sex, as methods of preventing AIDS.

    Dr. Eitan Gross, a pediatric surgeon from Hadassah who served as the project's medical director, said that working with the Swazi doctors and nurses was a "moving experience." "You had a sense that you were doing something groundbreaking, and they were very grateful," Gross said.
    Somehow I don't see this one taking off with African Males.
    It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
    RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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    I thought you were going to tell us you were becoming a grandad.
    One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

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    • #3
      Don't scare Rah ... I don't think I remember my CPR training...
      <Reverend> IRC is just multiplayer notepad.
      I like your SNOOPY POSTER! - While you Wait quote.

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      • #4
        Ok, I won't say who from Apolyton I thought the father would be.
        One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

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        • #5


          Yes, it would be heart attack material.
          My daughter only turns 21 this year, so hopefully I have a few more years before anyone is calling me grandpa.
          It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
          RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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          • #6
            I'm fairly confident nobody from Apolyton has ever met his daughter... fairly ...
            <Reverend> IRC is just multiplayer notepad.
            I like your SNOOPY POSTER! - While you Wait quote.

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            • #7
              Except Ming of course.

              And Baron O, (but he doesn't post in the OT)
              It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
              RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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              • #8
                I presume he met her pre-Apolyton... so he doesn't count Also, there are laws about that sort of thing...

                and to DanS your DanS, the first sentence still applies.
                <Reverend> IRC is just multiplayer notepad.
                I like your SNOOPY POSTER! - While you Wait quote.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by rah

                  My daughter only turns 21 this year,
                  Pic?
                  THEY!!111 OMG WTF LOL LET DA NOMADS AND TEH S3D3NTARY PEOPLA BOTH MAEK BITER AXP3REINCES
                  AND TEH GRAAT SINS OF THERE [DOCTRINAL] INOVATIONS BQU3ATH3D SMAL
                  AND!!1!11!!! LOL JUST IN CAES A DISPUTANT CALS U 2 DISPUT3 ABOUT THEYRE CLAMES
                  DO NOT THAN DISPUT3 ON THEM 3XCAPT BY WAY OF AN 3XTARNAL DISPUTA!!!!11!! WTF

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by LordShiva


                    Pic?
                    NO
                    NO
                    NO
                    NO
                    HELL NO.
                    It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
                    RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                    • #11
                      THEY!!111 OMG WTF LOL LET DA NOMADS AND TEH S3D3NTARY PEOPLA BOTH MAEK BITER AXP3REINCES
                      AND TEH GRAAT SINS OF THERE [DOCTRINAL] INOVATIONS BQU3ATH3D SMAL
                      AND!!1!11!!! LOL JUST IN CAES A DISPUTANT CALS U 2 DISPUT3 ABOUT THEYRE CLAMES
                      DO NOT THAN DISPUT3 ON THEM 3XCAPT BY WAY OF AN 3XTARNAL DISPUTA!!!!11!! WTF

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by rah


                        NO
                        NO
                        NO
                        NO
                        HELL NO.


                        Why not? It's not like she'll ever meet any of the OTF deviants fine citizens of the OTF.
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                        • #13
                          Since when has IVF been shown to increase birth rates? If anything they have proven just the opposite. At the very best they are neutral.
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                          • #14
                            You may need to explain the logic there Ben. I don't see how having IVF can lead to you having fewer children than none, but I may be missing something... so how does it lead to others having fewer children?
                            One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

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                            • #15
                              You may need to explain the logic there Ben. I don't see how having IVF can lead to you having fewer children than none, but I may be missing something.
                              Overall, the success rate with IVF is really terrible. Look at the west here, has the birth rate gone up anywhere where IVF is used?

                              It's really had no impact on the birth rate whatsoever. If IVF brought your birthrates up, why haven't we seen this happen in the west?
                              Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
                              "Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
                              2015 APOLYTON FANTASY FOOTBALL CHAMPION!

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