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    This guy, Brannon Howse is running for mayor in my town. This is his latest publicity stunt : (and yes, I will get to the thread title, it isn't misleading, just incomplete)

    Eleven Year Old Exposed To Gay Porn At Barnes and Noble and They Knew This Sort of Thing Was Happening

    By Brannon Howse



    On June 5th, my eleven year old son joined me in a visit to our local Barnes and Noble Bookstore in Collierville, TN. I was horrified at what my son saw. Open on a table was a very large, full-color, picture book displaying a man in full frontal nudity. The cover was two men kissing with the title GAY SEX. Here is a link to the book. Warning.

    This book was filled with full-color pictures of gay men doing what they do...Yes, it was that graphic.
    Okay, you're a homophobe, but I understand why you wouldn't want your 11 year old to see graphic depictions of sex, be it homo or hetero. You're on thin ice, but continue...

    The assistant manager told me that this was the second time that night this book had been laid open in the store. She also informed me that such books were regularly found in the men's room. I believe some homosexual or child predator was trolling and using the book to find a date or victim.
    Dammit, you went all lunatic on me too early in your article. You're supposed to build on your lunacy, becoming progressively more insane as the piece goes on, makes it much easier to mock you.

    The assistant manager told me a young boy had been sexually assaulted in the bathroom at this store and the man was never caught. She also said they had found a gun on the counter in the bathroom on another occasion.
    The assistant manager told you this? You see, this doesn't make sense. It would hurt business, which could cost her her job (not to mention the mere fact of sharing such information could, regardless of payroll issues.) It is possible she cared more about the truth than her pocket book, but then why did she not speak out sooner about these problems, instead of waiting to tell you at a very opportune time for your campaign?

    My police department does not have a record of either incident which was very disturbing to a police investigator I talked with. I guess a gun in the bathroom and a sexual assault of a child would not be good publicity so not reporting it would be better? A friend of mine read my original article and called to thank me for taking this public because his elementary son has entered into this bathroom by himself a few times.
    Once again, this assistant manager cared enough to tell you, but not the police?

    After sharing these disturbing stories with me, the assistant manger walked me to where the book was normally kept. Was it behind a counter? No, it was on the top shelf of a bookcase that any 13 year old could reach. Welcome to the 21st Century where being gay is mainstream and celebrated as normal in a family bookstore. Click the link at the bottom of this article and listen to my national radio program to find out what I am going to do.
    Just because the store has books doesn't mean they celebrate their contents. His reporting of where such a book would be found is accurate, however. Of course, there are gay 13 year olds, shouldn't they be able to read about their sexuality?

    I returned to the Barnes and Noble the next day to document the placement of their pornographic books. I have three places where books that included pictures of either homosexual porn or heterosexual porn were placed throughout their bookshelves. One section of books was low enough that my five year old could have pulled them from the shelf.
    Three places? He wasn't looking hard enough.

    Collierville, TN does not have an ordinance that requires this type of material to be behind a counter out of reach of children or moved into a restricted area that requires a person to be 18 or older to enter.
    I'll come back to this.

    This is one more example of where elected officials have the opportunity to implement public policy that protects the innocence of our children as well as accounts for their physical safety. You can bet I will be working for such a city ordinance as well as working to make sure state law 39-17-911 is enforced and there is a penalty for robbing my son's innocence.
    Your son's "innocence" is going to go away sometime. At least it happened at a time when you could discuss it with him. Not saying it's the ideal situation, it isn't, but your plan of telling him sex is bad and he wouldn't desire any carnal knowledge until his wedding night wasn't going to work out either. (Yes, I put words in his mouth. Bite me.)

    I am working with the American Family Association to have an e-mail go to 3 million people calling for a boycott of Barnes and Nobel until they put this garbage behind a counter or in a restricted area where children can not see it or have access to it.

    This story has now gone nation wide through my national radio program, my 30 minute appearance on the Michael Reagan program (son of President Ronald Reagan) as well as being a guest on the local program of Mike Fleming.

    I am booked on numerous national radio programs this week. It is really too bad for Barnes and Noble that this happen to my son because I will use what most fathers don't have at their disposal....a national audience and friends who have big radio programs, TV programs and huge e-mail alert systems. My friend, Mike Reagan sent my national press release to the personal e-mail address of Sean Hannity and I sent it to the producer for Bill O’Reilly and he replied back to me. So, be watching because this mad dad is going as far as he can with this. I am fighting this not only for my son but for every parent and grandparent that joins me in being angry about Barnes and Noble's irresponsible and I believe illegal business practice.
    I can't watch O'Reilly, gives me a headache. Anyone watch O'Reilly/ listen to Reagan and actually heard this mentioned?

    *Local Political Rant Deleted*

    As far as Barnes and Noble is concerned, welcome to the 21st Century where homosexuality is now mainstreamed into a family bookstore that has a huge children’s department. Sadly the chances are greater in some states that I would get charged with a hate-crime for speaking out about this rather than the store being fined.
    I'll agree there is no hate crime here (no crime, plenty of hate though.) But they should be fined? For carrying books? Given that they're a book store? And oh yeah, they do have a large children's section. Maybe you should go there instead of mucking with other people's choices.

    I encourage you to read some of the replies and follow up articles at the above site and at safercollierville.com , but I'll stop quoting here.

    Now, my question is, how should bookstores handle sexual material? While I feel it is the parents responsibility to watch there child, and therefore don't have any problem with it being on a shelf where a child could potentially access it, there are some legitimate concerns. Chief among them is pranksters. The websites above have stories, probably not true, but certainly plausible, of sexually explicit books being found both in the common areas of the store, and of more concern in the actual children's section. Now, the nutcases that share these stories blame the bookstore and insinuate this is done on purpose, by the store. While that is absurd, I could certainly see some teenage douche bag putting an inappropriate book in the children's section (Screw criminals, Australia should have been reserved as a place to send teenagers until they grow up.) And while the excuse of "watch your children, they're your responsibility" works for the common areas, I don't think it is unfair for a parent to expect that they can let their child browse the children's section with out looking at every book first.

    So, should Barnes and Noble have sexual content on their shelves? Should there be a law to this effect? Or is it wrong to even be concerned about children seeing this sort of thing? Discuss.
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    It's fine how it is.
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    It should be kept in a secure location.
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    It shouldn't be in the store at all.
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    Bananas are phallic and a new way to validate polls needs to be thought of.
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    You've just proven signature advertising works!

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    I have 3 daughters, and I have no problem with them knowing that people have sex.

    I do, however, try to shield them from porn, as I'd prefer them to relate to sex as an expression of love and intimacy, and they're so impressionable when they're young!

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    • #3
      Who are you people?
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      • #4
        Speaking for myself, I'm a Civilization player who occasionally strays in to the OT.

        Who are you?

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        • #5
          All in all, it's fine like it is. Similar to public libraries.

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          • #6
            The supremes have decided many times that local governments have the authority to decide standards that define porn and how and where porn may be displayed. This is no different.
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            • #7


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              • #8
                Originally posted by McCrea
                All in all, it's fine like it is. Similar to public libraries.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by ricketyclik
                  I have 3 daughters, and I have no problem with them knowing that people have sex.

                  I do, however, try to shield them from porn, as I'd prefer them to relate to sex as an expression of love and intimacy, and they're so impressionable when they're young!

                  Which means the bookstore doesn't care how you think.
                  If they want to stock things of this nature, have it in another area totally. Other people's beliefs and values are no more important than mine. You'll notice, I didn't say burn it all. I said, I have my rights.
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                  • #10
                    Sadly the chances are greater in some states that I would get charged with a hate-crime for speaking out about this rather than the store being fined.
                    Yet another person running for a position of power who has no idea what a hate crime is.

                    Hate crime is domestic terrorism, e.g. killing, beating, bombing, castrating, raping minority members so that they will "keep in their place." A finding of a hate crime results in a sentence enhancement because the individual attacked is not the only victim. Rather, the crime is intended to intimidate the entire community.

                    Talking about any subject is not a crime. It is not terrorism, and so it is not a hate crime.

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                    • #11
                      I fail to see how this manager can keep his job. What he did must be considered as disloyalty towards his empoyer, no?
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                      • #12
                        Gays(and supporters) are full of crap. Anytime their material is not given support they call you homophobic.

                        I don't think it is unfair for a parent to expect that they can let their child browse the children's section with out looking at every book first.
                        Unreasonable one moment and reasonable the next


                        Its not unreasonable to keep porn in porn stores. Go there if you want it. I have rights also, and i think i should be able to go somewhere without seeing porn or gay(or anything) views forced on me
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Slade Wilson
                          Its not unreasonable to keep porn in porn stores. Go there if you want it. I have rights also, and i think i should be able to go somewhere without seeing porn or gay(or anything) views forced on me
                          Having previously worked at a Barnes & Noble, I can tell you that the only pr0n carried by the company is in the pages of magazines like PlayBoy, which are always sealed (or should always be) and kept out of reach of children.

                          What this guy found was not porn but a book that should have been in the sex/relationships (I don't remember it's exact name anymore) section of the bookstore. That section contains a number of books about sex and the vast majority of them have to do with good old fashioned penis in vagina sex, not that dirty dirty homogayfag sex.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Slade Wilson
                            I have rights also, and i think i should be able to go somewhere without seeing porn or gay(or anything) views forced on me
                            Yes, teh "right to not see ghey stuff" as enshrined in teh Bill of Rights

                            Seeing a dude's dong forces gay views on you

                            Stop whining. If you don't like it, don't go to their store.
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                            • #15
                              Agreed. I side with Lord Shiva.

                              They should be perfectly allowed to stock that stuff. I cannot be forced to view anything, when it is their store and their business.

                              By the same token they should offer a warning somewhere in their store that they sell explicit materials. That way patrons can make an informed decision.
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