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  • You May Have a Woman's Brain

    If you are a woman, or a gay man.

    From Scientific American

    Researchers using brain scans have found new evidence that biology—and not environment—is at the core of sexual orientation. Scientists at the Stockholm Brain Institute in Sweden report in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences USA that gay men and straight women share similar traits—most notably in the size of their brains and the activity of the amygdala—an area of the brain tied to emotion, anxiety and aggression. The same is true for heterosexual men and lesbians.

    Study author, neurologist Ivanka Savic–Berglund, says such characteristics would develop in the womb or in early infancy, meaning that psychological or environmental factors played little or no role.

    "This is yet another in a long series of observations showing there's a biological reason for sexual orientation," says Dean Hamer, a molecular biologist at the National Institutes of Health (NIH), who was not involved in the study. "It's not just a reflection of people's behavior, nor is it a choice, nor is it something in their rearing environment. [The study] shows that it's something that people are born with."

    Previous studies have examined brain differences between gay and straight people on the basis of their responses to various tasks, such as rating the attractiveness of other people. The problem was that there was no way to determine whether their responses were colored by learned social cues.

    To get around this, Savic-Berglund focused on the structure and function of brain regions that develop during fetal development or early infancy—without using any cognitive tasks or rating systems.

    The researchers used MRIs to determine the volume and shapes of the brains of 90 volunteers—25 straight and 20 gay members of each sex. They found that the straight men and gay women had asymmetrical brains; that is, the cerebrum (the largest part of the brain, which is responsible for thought, sensory processing, movement and planning) was larger on the right hemisphere of the brain than on the left. In contrast, they found that women and gay men had symmetrical cerebrums.

    The team next used PET (positron emission tomography) scans to measure the blood flow to the amygdala, that part of the brain controlling emotion, fear and aggression. The images showed how the amygdala connects to other parts of the brain, giving them clues as to how this might influence behavior. They scanned subjects' brains when they at rest and did not show them photos or introduce other behavior that might have been learned.

    They found that in gay men and women, the blood flowed to areas involved in fear and anxiety, whereas in straight men and lesbians it tended to flow to pockets linked to aggression.

    Robert Epstein, emeritus director of the Cambridge Center for Behavioral Studies in Concord, Mass., agrees that the study offers compelling evidence that sexual orientation is a biologically fixed characteristic. But he cautions that these findings may vary in different people whose sexual orientation is not that clear-cut, which his own research shows includes a majority of the population.


    I had always thought the Freudian type of explanation (he had an overbearing mother, etc.) wasn't up to the job.

    Reminds me of this classic Blackadder scene

    Only feebs vote.

  • #2
    Like this is going to make a difference to the religious wackjob set.
    “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
    - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
      Like this is going to make a difference to the religious wackjob set.
      No. But the trolling opportunities w/regard to MrFun will be endless.

      BTW, the observant will notice that Captain Rum in the clip is none other than the best Doctor Who evar.
      Only feebs vote.

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      • #4
        It will be interesting to see if this is validated.

        It would be fun to throw this in the face of a lot of bigots that have claimed for years that it's choice and thereby a sin against nature. How will they rationalize their hatred if they can't use that as an excuse anymore.
        It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
        RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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        • #5
          THE DEVIL MESSED UP MAH BABYS BRAIN WYLE IN MAH WOMB!!!1!!
          I'm consitently stupid- Japher
          I think that opinion in the United States is decidedly different from the rest of the world because we have a free press -- by free, I mean a virgorously presented right wing point of view on the air and available to all.- Ned

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          • #6
            They'll use the same charge they use against Global Climate Change scientists and claim bad science or something.
            “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
            - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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            • #7
              Originally posted by rah
              It will be interesting to see if this is validated.

              How will they rationalize their hatred if they can't use that as an excuse anymore.
              By claiming its a mutation no doubt.

              Note that there's also plenty of ammunition for sexists who claim that women are overemotional and suchlike (not that they aren't).

              BTW, was Blackadder ever shown in the US? I loved that show.
              Only feebs vote.

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              • #8
                Researchers using brain scans have found new evidence that biology—and not environment—is at the core of sexual orientation.


                New evidence that...

                This isn't proof of anything, really. I still don't see any reason to believe that human sexuality develops any differently than (most) other human traits - as a combination of biology, environment (including trauma), and (depending on your point of view) choice.

                (Think I can fit another set of parentheses in this post?)
                Click here if you're having trouble sleeping.
                "We confess our little faults to persuade people that we have no large ones." - François de La Rochefoucauld

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Agathon


                  By claiming its a mutation no doubt.

                  Note that there's also plenty of ammunition for sexists who claim that women are overemotional and suchlike (not that they aren't).

                  BTW, was Blackadder ever shown in the US? I loved that show.
                  They showed it on PBS in Utah, along with Monty Python and Red Green.

                  ACK!
                  Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by rah
                    It will be interesting to see if this is validated.

                    It would be fun to throw this in the face of a lot of bigots that have claimed for years that it's choice and thereby a sin against nature. How will they rationalize their hatred if they can't use that as an excuse anymore.
                    What do you mean "if" this is validated? How many of these studies do we need?

                    This is like the 4th or 5th such peer-reviewed study with identical conclusions.
                    "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                    Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                    • #11
                      And would a mod actually rename this thread title such that it is intelligent and not some lame Agathon-tries-to-make-some-jokes Jeff Foxworthy-ripoff thread like I thought it was?
                      "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                      Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                      • #12
                        At least the title isn't misleading.

                        Is this really the 4 or 5th study that shows this? I have not heard of the others if so. If it has been validated, I personally think it's "excellent". Please don't hold it against me if I"m not up to date on the latest in this area. You read so much stuff from both sides and it's sometimes hard to igore or believe some of it.
                        It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
                        RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                        • #13
                          It is a bit misleading because it looks like a joke thread.

                          My title was perfect. As usual. It's hard being right so much, but Mr Snuggles manages.
                          "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                          Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                          • #14
                            People having brains
                            Blah

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by rah
                              It will be interesting to see if this is validated.

                              It would be fun to throw this in the face of a lot of bigots that have claimed for years that it's choice and thereby a sin against nature. How will they rationalize their hatred if they can't use that as an excuse anymore.
                              Actually, some of the religious extremists are in favor of finding biological bases for the gay, so as to better "treat" the "disease" before it gets out of hand.
                              B♭3

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