Obama claims proud family history of service in the Soviet Army

[Patroklos]

Perhaps your not paying attention, but its EVERYBODY jumping on him for an intentional deceitful exaggeration, not...

republican sleezebags are jumping all up over it like it is a massive lie?

I am personally not so much criticizing him because of the lie itself, but more for his reasons for deciding to wheel this turd out in the first place.

[Wezil]

"wheel this turd out"

[Asher]

Originally posted by Patroklos
Perhaps your not paying attention, but its EVERYBODY jumping on him

Logic 101 crash course for my military friend

"EVERYBODY" is a universal qualifier

I am not jumping on him.

Thus, DISPROVEN.

[Elok]

I also am not jumping on him. The whole affair is stupid.

Originally posted by Heraclitus
If a politican here made that mistake that would be a big story.

Yes, because for you "here" is eastern Europe, and there's a big difference between two nearby countries to you. Plus it's more or less your own history. This is, for us, comparable to what it would be if one of your pols referred to "Cedar Rapids, Idaho." Dear God, he misplaced a minor location on the other side of the world!

For me it's just not significant which death-camp is where. It's not a major detail, nor does it significantly alter the narrative; it's not like he said his uncle fought for the U.S. at Stalingrad or that he protested the 1943 invasion of Poland. It does make Obama look a little silly that he's got inaccurate memories of his own family history. But meh.

EDIT to use a different exclamation from VG, which for some reason was bothering me.

[Dinner]

Originally posted by Victor Galis
If the only inaccuracy is the name of the camp this really isn't a story . Oh noes! A Harvard law grad doesn't realize that Auschwitz is in Poland .

[Patroklos]

I will remember this the next time someone pretends America's lack of specific geographic knowledge is a legitimate critisism.

[Elok]

Well, we do like our presidents to have sufficient geographic knowledge to handle the pressing issues they'll face upon entering office. Like the locations of death camps that were invaded and disbanded in 1945. That sort of knowledge is CRUCIAL.

[Aeson]

Elok, if we can't decide elections on that sort of (lack of) knowledge... the terrorists have already won

[Heraclitus]

Originally posted by Elok
Well, we do like our presidents to have sufficient geographic knowledge to handle the pressing issues they'll face upon entering office. Like the locations of death camps that were invaded and disbanded in 1945. That sort of knowledge is CRUCIAL.

I suppose I understand 60 years must seem like a lot for a country with 200 years of history.

[Patroklos]

It has nothing to do with the location Elok, it has to do with the reputation. Every American knows Auchwitz, it has been indelibly marked in most of our brains by numerous movies, books, and madatory schooling about it.

If his Uncle had said Auschwitz Obama would have instantly recognized that and remembered it. Similarly if it was NOT Auschwitz it would have been just as noticable. Especially given his education.

It was deliberatly changed it Auschwitz because people recognize the name. The very word evokes emotions and images pretty much everyone is familiar with. Using it was an obvious ploy to add gravity and effect to anotherwise pathetic, and ultimately pathetic anyway, pander.

Buchenwald does none of this because you are correct, your average person has no reason to know about it because they already know about the more imfamous Auschwitz. Obama knew what he was doing.

The only legitimate excuse would be if his great uncle just said "death camp" and Obama assumed it was Auschwitz for the very same reason every American knows about Auschwitz. In that case, it was still stupid for him to do so for different reasons (and that Columbia should lose its accredidation), and no less a pathetic pander.

[Agathon]

Most Americans think that Auschwitz is a either a brand of beer or smoked sausage, so what does it matter?

Conservatives will whine about anything. Michelle Malkin thinks that Dunkin Donuts supports Islamic Jihad. Obama mentioned the wrong holocaust camp that his grandfather liberated (that's almost the same as saying his grandfather liberated no camps, right?).

Crazy worthless Tory scum the lot of them.

****ing Hunter Thompson... he just killed himself so that when he was really needed by humanity people would say "I wish Hunter Thompson was alive and writing about this". He was right: once you think that Nixon was vastly preferable to the incumbent, it is basically the end of the world.

[Q Classic]

Originally posted by Agathon
Conservatives will whine about anything. Michelle Malkin thinks that Dunkin Donuts supports Islamic Jihad.

Well, wouldn't you? Every Dunkin' Donuts I go to is run by them darkie dot injuns who're islamist ethnic terrorists.

'Course they'd want to support them Al-Qaidas. They've followed us here, don'tcha see?

Incidentally, Dunkin' Donuts being the ball-less ****s they are caved and pulled that Rachel Ray ad.

Really, the crime wasn't the scarf. It was that they hired Rachel Ray.

[rah]

Originally posted by Elok
It does make Obama look a little silly that he's got inaccurate memories of his own family history. But meh.

I'm tired of our presidents looking silly.

[Q Classic]

Originally posted by rah
I'm tired of our presidents looking silly.

Yes, but then what would the sharp comedic minds of our generation spend their time on?

[SpencerH]

If this was the first 'misremembering' who'd care? It's not the first time though. It's part of a pattern of deception and willingness to distort the truth that has been characteristic of (mostly) Democrat candidates. I cant wait for the general election. We're gonna tear the fraud known as Obama to tiny little pieces. After it's all done, people will remember the swiftboat vets as being very polite.