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    Vatican says aliens could exist

    Aliens could be out there, and believing that the universe may contain extraterrestrial life does not contradict a faith in God, the Vatican's chief astronomer says.

    The vastness of the universe - with its hundred billion galaxies and trillions of stars - means there could be other forms of life outside Earth, even intelligent ones, the Rev Jose Gabriel Funes, a Jesuit who directs the Vatican Observatory, says.

    "How can we rule out that life may have developed elsewhere?" Mr Funes said in an interview with Vatican newspaper L'Osservatore Romano, headlined: "The extraterrestrial is my brother."

    "Just as there is a multitude of creatures on Earth, there could be other beings, even intelligent ones, created by God. This does not contradict our faith, because we cannot put limits on God's creative freedom," he said.

    "Just as we consider earthly creatures as 'a brother' and 'sister', why should we not talk about an 'extraterrestrial brother'? It would still be part of creation."

    The full-page interview - printed in a question-and-answer format - ranged from discussions about the relationship between the Roman Catholic Church and science, to the theological implications of the existence of alien life.

    Mr Funes mused that aliens would not have been visited by Jesus, because his "incarnation was a unique and unrepeatable event". However, "I am sure that they too, in some way, would have the possibility to benefit from God's mercy".

    Mr Funes said that science, especially astronomy, did not contradict religion, touching on a theme often dealt with by Pope Benedict XVI, who has made exploring the relationship between faith and reason a key aspect of his papacy.

    The Bible "is not a science book" and looking for scientific facts on the universe and its origin does not cast doubt on God's role in its creation, Mr Funes says.

    As an example, he said he believed the Big Bang theory was the most "reasonable" explanation of the creation of the universe. The theory says the universe began billions of years ago in the explosion of a single, super-dense point that contained all matter.


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  • #2
    I recall a story of an astronomer (name escapes me at the moment, possibly Tyco Brahe but not certain). He suggested that there may be other planets with other life on them. The pope was happy with that until the astronomer in question suggested that they may also have their own popes.
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    • #3
      /me would like to insert screenshot from south park with all the alien catholic bishops but is too bored to find one
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      • #4
        The faithful already believe in miracles, they'll accept whatever the leaders of the church say.
        "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
        "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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        • #5
          See, I used to wonder about this, especially concerning evangelical fundamentalists here in the US. Their whole deal is that Jesus is coming back, and the good folks will be raptured up to heaven. Well, what about aliens? Will they be raptured too? What if Jesus comes back far in the future, and we have colonized Mars? Will the devout on Mars be raptured, even though the big JC is here?

          These are the sort of questions that got me thrown out of Sunday school.
          "My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
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          • #6
            You were ahead of your time Guynemer. They are open to these questions now and apparently have even come up with some answers.
            "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
            "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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            • #7
              Cylons
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              • #8
                WTF is a Cylon?
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                AND TEH GRAAT SINS OF THERE [DOCTRINAL] INOVATIONS BQU3ATH3D SMAL
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                • #9
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                  “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                  - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                  • #10
                    This opinion doesn't surprise me and seems to be just common sense, based upon what we know.

                    There are lots of fascinating religious implications of the space age.
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                    • #11
                      Meanwhile.....

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                      Files released on UFO sightings
                      A sketch of a UFO [Pic: National Archives]
                      This is how one person described the UFO they had seen

                      Secret files on UFO sightings have been made available for the first time by the Ministry of Defence.

                      The documents, which can be downloaded from the National Archives website, cover the period from 1978 to 1987.

                      They include accounts of strange lights in the sky and unexplained objects being spotted by the public, armed forces and police officers.

                      One man explained in great detail his "physical and psychic contact" with green aliens since he was a child.

                      The writer said that one of them, called Algar, was killed in 1981 by another race of beings as he was about to make contact with the UK government.

                      The letter's author said he visited their bases in the Wirral and Cheshire, while his wife reported seeing a UFO shot down over Wallasey on Merseyside.

                      The eight released files are part of almost 200 files set to be made available over the next four years.

                      These documents will be available to download for free for the first month.

                      A spokesman for the National Archives said they were now becoming available after several requests made under the Freedom of Information Act, and also because of a "proactive move by the Ministry of Defence for an open and transparent government".

                      Much of the previously classified paperwork is made up of correspondence from the public sent to government officials, such as the MoD and then-prime minister Margaret Thatcher.


                      You can go. You are too old and too infirm for our purpose
                      Reported alien comment to pensioner

                      In Pictures: The UFO files
                      Expert examines UFO files
                      Another document reveals the experiences of a 78-year-old man who alleged that he met an alien beside Basingstoke Canal in Aldershot, Hampshire in 1983.

                      He said he went on board the craft, giving a detailed explanation of it, before being quizzed by the aliens about his age.

                      He was then told: "You can go. You are too old and too infirm for our purpose."

                      'Britain's Roswell'

                      Another letter, from the director of a group called the Wigan Ariel Phenomena Investigation Team, asks the MoD if it had a code of practice for dealing with an alien invasion.

                      A further document reveals how, on 21 February 1982, a group of customers and staff at a Tunbridge Wells pub reported an unknown object with green and red flashing lights - seen heading in the direction of Gatwick airport.

                      There are some reports from more official sources. The United States Air Force filed a report about two USAF policemen who saw "unusual lights outside the back gate at RAF Woodbridge" in Suffolk in December 1980.


                      Let me assure this House that Her Majesty's government has never been approached by people from outer space
                      Government briefing to House of Lords

                      This relates to the well-known incident of an alleged alien encounter at Rendlesham Forest, dubbed "Britain's Roswell" after the supposed contact made with aliens at Roswell in the United States.

                      Several drawings are visible in the files from those keen to demonstrate what they had seen.

                      One such sketch was made by Metropolitan Police officers, who were called out to a house in Stanmore in the London Borough of Harrow on 26 April, 1984.

                      Three officers spent an hour observing the object in the sky, which "moved erratically from side to side, up and down and to and fro, not venturing far from the original position".

                      One of the Pcs, who saw the object through binoculars, described it as "circular in the middle with what appeared to be a dome on top and underneath" with different coloured lights.

                      Common explanations

                      Visitors to the National Archives site will also find a videocast from Nick Pope, a British UFO specialist.

                      Mr Pope picked out one incident where a UFO was spotted over central London.

                      A sketch of a UFO [Pic: National Archives]
                      A sketch of a UFO, made by a Metropolitan Police officer

                      "This is a very interesting illustration that, actually, UFOs are seen in built-up areas. People have this idea they're seen in desolate, rural places.

                      "There's a sighting actually on Waterloo bridge, when a number of witnesses actually stopped to look at this UFO that was seen over the Thames."

                      Mr Pope said the most common explanation for UFOs were aircraft lights, bright stars and planets, satellites, meteors, or airships.

                      A detailed briefing is available within the files, which was prepared by the MoD for Lord Strabolgi, then government chief whip, for a debate on UFOs in the House of Lords in January 1979.

                      The briefing said that "there is nothing to indicate that UFOlogy is anything but claptrap" and that the idea of an "inter-governmental conspiracy of silence" was "the most astonishing and the most flattering claim of all".
                      I think it's no coincidence that both the Vatican and the British MoD are talking more about this stuff. Clearly, they want to prepare humanity for an Alien invasion coming soon.
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                      • #12
                        Well he is the Vicar of Christ on Earth.

                        No reason why aliens couldn't exist and have their own popes too.
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                        • #13
                          All hail the Space Pope!

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                          • #14
                            Except those alien popes are wrong! They need to be saved and follow the teachings of Christ. And if their salvation requires we firebomb their planet, I say it's worth it.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by MarkG
                              * MarkG would like to insert screenshot from south park with all the alien catholic bishops but is too bored to find one
                              You mean too lazy? How can one be too bored to do something?

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