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  • Originally posted by DanS
    As a fun exercise, calculate how short of time it has taken the Mormons to be 2%+ of the US population.
    If you'd have followed some of my conversations on this message board, you'd know I've already done so.

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    • The answer is simple, we should start on getting us another planet or two.

      We could terraform Mars to be habitable in 200 years time if we started in 20 years. That sounds just about the time when the 4th world will enter its industrial boom and when we will need room to find for 10 extra billion people.
      Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
      The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
      The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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      • Originally posted by Arrian


        Woohoo for the white rich man's burden!

        -Arrian
        It wouldn't matter where the poor were from if we had global education and global health.

        However, states have a hard time providing that for themselves, and we are a long way away from having global.

        JM
        Jon Miller-
        I AM.CANADIAN
        GENERATION 35: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.

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        • Originally posted by chegitz guevara
          There's a high energy cost associated with using that space. There's a new explanation for the Fermi Paradox which posits that the reason we haven't run across evidence of intelligent life is that they run out of cheap, plentiful energy before they can begin to colonize space.
          That's a terrible explanation. Think about it for a while, if you actually understand the fundamental reason the Fermi paradox is a paradox, and you'll see why.

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          • Originally posted by Jon Miller
            But you know, even the poor in the US are wealthy compared to people in many other countries (especially because of public support of education). Therefore I really think that a large portion of the US (and european countries/etc) are in the set that owes it to society to have children.
            You've never been to inner city Philly or rural Georgia have you? I've seen Third World poverty in America more often than I'd like to admit.
            Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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            • Originally posted by chegitz guevara
              You've never been to inner city Philly or rural Georgia have you? I've seen Third World poverty in America more often than I'd like to admit.
              JM lives in Baltimore, che.

              edit: this is wrong

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              • Originally posted by Arrian
                But not unlimited resources.
                No, the resources are damn near unlimited as well.
                I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                • Originally posted by Kuciwalker
                  Jesus = God = the guy who gave everyone life, so yes.
                  He didn't procreate in the sense it's being used here. (Otherwise we're all damned, except the Mormons.)

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                  • Originally posted by Kuciwalker
                    That's a terrible explanation. Think about it for a while, if you actually understand the fundamental reason the Fermi paradox is a paradox, and you'll see why.
                    Snoopy is right. You are annoying.
                    Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                    • Originally posted by Kuciwalker


                      JM lives in Baltimore, che.
                      Newport News

                      KH lives in Baltimore

                      Newport News does have some pretty bad areas

                      But Che, I did say a large portion. I know that there are people in the US which can't afford to take care of their children.

                      JM
                      Jon Miller-
                      I AM.CANADIAN
                      GENERATION 35: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.

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                      • Originally posted by Aeson
                        He didn't procreate in the sense it's being used here.


                        He knocked up Mary, didn't he?

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                        • Originally posted by chegitz guevara
                          Snoopy is right. You are annoying.
                          But right. Keep thinking.

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                          • Originally posted by DanS
                            No, the resources are damn near unlimited as well.
                            No, they are all too finite.
                            Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                            • Originally posted by Heraclitus

                              I would argue it is and would think a kidless tax would be a good way to go.
                              Just talking about the USA again, bear in mind that school systems are funded by property taxes. Setting aside whether or not that's a good idea, it means that childless people are already paying toward the educations of the children in their area. Further, the rich folks probably own more expensive houses and thus pay more.

                              I don't get to opt out of paying my share of the local school budget because I don't have kids (and I agree that this is the right way to do things).

                              -Arrian
                              grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

                              The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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                              • Originally posted by chegitz guevara
                                No, they are all too finite.
                                Even keeping ourselves to this solar system, the resources are limited mostly by our imagination in how to utilize the tools at hand.
                                I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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