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  • Imperialism is Capitalism

    What do you think?
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    true
    30.43%
    7
    false
    69.57%
    16

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    Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
    The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
    The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

  • #2
    false and invalid
    Blah

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    • #3
      Originally posted by BeBro
      false and invalid
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      • #4
        Yes.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by BeBro
          false and invalid
          It can't be both. Invalid is invalid.
          I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
          - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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          • #6
            Very false.

            Imperialism is a political system. Technically, it means a country ruled by an Emperor or Empress. It implies, however, a collection of nations ruled by a single despot.

            Capitalism is an economic system.

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            • #7
              There is no clear distinct line between political and economic systems, practices and institutions. To find proof of this one only needs to take a look at history.

              Nationalized industries or even entire economies, owned by the state are good examples of this. Another extreme are the nearly “privatized” plutocratic governments of past and present.



              Both are systems in which people try to maximize their social standing (through power or wealth) and are as such intertwined. The only major difference I can think of is the government’s right to use force and even that is in practice available to those pursuing higher social standing outside government.
              Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
              The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
              The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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              • #8
                Originally posted by BeBro
                false and invalid
                He just doesn't understand poly.
                Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                • #9
                  Yes, both are systems of power accumulation which lead to suffering for everyone.

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                  • #10
                    Both are systems in which people try to maximize their social standing (through power or wealth)


                    As opposed to?
                    12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                    Stadtluft Macht Frei
                    Killing it is the new killing it
                    Ultima Ratio Regum

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                    • #11
                      Re: Imperialism is Capitalism

                      Originally posted by Heraclitus
                      What do you think?
                      Yes
                      I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                      - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Zkribbler
                        Very false.

                        Imperialism is a political system. Technically, it means a country ruled by an Emperor or Empress. It implies, however, a collection of nations ruled by a single despot.

                        Capitalism is an economic system.
                        An annoying thing with English language is that it doesn't make a distinction between the word "empire" in the sense of a state ruled by an emperor or empress, and "empire" in the sense of a far-flung territorium that's been conquered. Not all empires the latter sense have an emperor/empress at the top (eg: the French empire, when it was a republic) and not all state with an emperor/empress control far-lung territories beyond the homeland (eg: Japan).

                        19th century Imperialism was about conquest and not about a political system, since the various European states had different ones.
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                        • #13
                          Because the terms have different meanings depending on context, the answer is both true and false.

                          Zkribbler's definition of imperialism is a very old one. When Marxists use the term, it refers to the colonialism of the previous centuries, especially the previous two. Specifically, we understand imperialism by the analysis of Lenin in his 1916 work, Imperialism: The Highest Stage of Capitalism.
                          Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                          • #14
                            DanSed you (a little).
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by KrazyHorse

                              As opposed to?
                              Well you are an odd fellow. Take away political/economic interactions and there is nothing else left. All our social interactions fall into this category.

                              What we perceive as “government” or “company” are just a highly complex system of many such people engaging in such interactions, while following (or sometimes carefully bypassing) intricate traditional and legal rules. This results in very interesting macro emergent behavior of these systems.
                              Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
                              The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
                              The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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