Imperialism is Capitalism

[Heraclitus]

Originally posted by VetLegion


SUBconscious?
Our KH here once made a thread in which he ranked intelligence of various forum posters...

In my opinion forum debates are more often about verbal brawling than searching for truth of the matter. But you have to be prepared for that (you seem surprised). There are probably specialized philosophical forums where that is frawned upon.

I'm not suprised belive it or not I've spent some time here and on other forums.

But just to argue against you; I can say that on very rare occasions a search for truth does emerge and when it does its very enjoyable.


Also a philosophical forum? Pekka's posts are short compared to some of the responses, let alone OP, you find on those.

[Colon™]

Originally posted by VetLegion
Our KH here once made a thread in which he ranked intelligence of various forum posters...

I was rather pleased with my ranking.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by Heraclitus

2) His resolution of the conflict between point one and his self-doubt, as to whether he is more intelligent or not, is one of trying to reduce the perceived intelligence of all around him

I have no doubt that I'm smarter than you. For instance, I would never claim that all systems with a given degree of "complexity" are equivalent. And if I did I would come out and say it instead of couching it in some sort of metaphorical gobbledygook.

A polytubby named Heraclitus
Was wholly unaware of how trite his
Analysis of
Sociology was
A symptom of rampant idiotitis.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by VetLegion
There are probably specialized philosophical forums where that is frawned upon.

He might also find people there who are willing to abide by ridiculous views like the idea that the only discerning factor between socio-economic-political systems is their degree of "complexity".

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by VetLegion

Our KH here once made a thread in which he ranked intelligence of various forum posters...

That might have been the single greatest moment in Apolyton history. The thread got up to 500 posts in ~24 hours.

[Heraclitus]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse


I have no doubt that I'm smarter than you.

You have yet to convince me of this.



In any case the fact that you bring it up at only adds credence to my four points, as does the following:

Originally posted by KrazyHorse And if I did I would come out and say it instead of couching it in some sort of metaphorical gobbledygook.

A polytubby named Heraclitus
Was wholly unaware of how trite his
Analysis of
Sociology was
A symptom of rampant idiotitis.

Originally posted by Heraclitus

2) His resolution of the conflict between point one and his self-doubt, as to whether he is more intelligent or not, is one of trying to reduce the perceived intelligence of all around him.

3) His employment of the following methods/tactics/ strategies: Horse Laugh, negative proof, Ad hominem attack, ignoratio elenchi, false dichotomy, ect.

I think I have said enough about this sad little detour, don't you?

Originally posted by KrazyHorse
For instance, I would never claim that all systems with a given degree of "complexity" are equivalent.

Never said they were equivalent, you assumed that. I said we can only categorize them according to complexity and that is something completely different. Now if you are not sure what I mean by this you can ask me to explain further… slowly.



But if you insist on it I will have to start a new thread about this, since this is not what I primarily want to discuss in this thread.

[Heraclitus]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse


That might have been the single greatest moment in Apolyton history. The thread got up to 500 posts in ~24 hours.

Appealing to vanity is the surest way to succeed.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by Heraclitus


You have yet to convince me of this

I have no need to convince you of it.

Never said they were equivalent, you assumed that.

Are you unaware of what "is" means in the English language? The question of whether Noun A "is" Noun B is one of equivalence pure and simple. Not whether or not you can group them together under some larger heading such as "sociological concepts Heraclitus claims have the same degree of complexity".

You tool.

[Ecthy]

BTW, a thread title in itself can't be true or false. If anything then so can the statement be that is put there.

That said, KH sucks.

[Barnabas]

Imperialism and capitalism are 2 different things

There were lots of non-capitalistic empires before the dutch one (the first capitalistic empire)

[Heraclitus]

Originally posted by Barnabas
Imperialism and capitalism are 2 different things

There were lots of non-capitalistic empires before the dutch one (the first capitalistic empire)

That does need clarification, I meant late Imperialism such as that practiced from the 18th century onwards.

[Heraclitus]

Originally posted by Ecthy
BTW, a thread title in itself can't be true or false. If anything then so can the statement be that is put there.

Lost in translation I suppose.

[Ecthy]

Barnabas, that archaic perception of the term "imperialism" has been adressed like 40 posts ago.

[Barnabas]

If I recall correctly, what some communists believe in, is that the communist revolution is industrialized countries predicted by Marx, basically, the working class of those countries killing the rich, has been delayed, because the first-world rich have managed to artificially elevate the standard of life of the first world working class, by exploting the third world, and sharing some of that surplus value with their compatriots through the "welfare state"

Not that I believe in that, but ive heard it a few times

[Ecthy]

es por que en colombia no hay educación