Jury Duty

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by TheStinger
Just because you disagree with a law doesn't mean you can't apply them when on a Jury. You are asked to decide whether or not soemone is guilty on the facts and the law. You can do that irrespective of your own views. In fact isn't that the point of a Jury.

I could do so, but I wouldn't. I would say, in a free society, people should be allowed to buy and sell drugs, so I'm voting for freedom. I would vote to nullify, which is, the jury says, we don't agree with this law. Since double jeopardy is unconstitutional, there isn't a lot the courts can do if the jury acquits, unless there's evidence of jury tampering by the defendant, maybe not even then. Plus, while the courts frown on nullification, none have as yet said it's illegal.

[Ben Kenobi]

I could do so, but I wouldn't. I would say, in a free society, people should be allowed to buy and sell drugs, so I'm voting for freedom

Should people be able to buy rocket launchers Che?

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara


I could do so, but I wouldn't. I would say, in a free society, people should be allowed to buy and sell drugs, so I'm voting for freedom.

Errr yea, are you saying that a society where people can't buy and sell whatever they want is not a free society?

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi


Should people be able to buy rocket launchers Che?

drugs /= rockets launchers

please get back to me when you have an intelligent argument

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Kidicious
Errr yea, are you saying that a society where people can't buy and sell whatever they want is not a free society?

If you live in a market society, yes. If we didn't, the basic assumptions change. However, I also think that the state has no business telling people what they can or cannot put into their own bodies (provided it wouldn't harm someone else, i.e., it ought to be illegal to give yourself smallpox).

[Kuciwalker]

If you live in a market society, yes.

You mean, if we live in your strawman of a market society.

[Ben Kenobi]

So a 'free country' would allow you to buy drugs and not rocket launchers.

I guess the drug dealers are not harming anyone eh?

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
However, I also think that the state has no business telling people what they can or cannot put into their own bodies (provided it wouldn't harm someone else, i.e., it ought to be illegal to give yourself smallpox).

It does harm others though. Just as smoking, drinking, overeating etc.. Those who do those things take resources because of their sicknesses. For example, a planned economy would have to have more drug rehabilitation centers for those who become addicted to drugs.

[DinoDoc]

Commies believe in a free society?

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
Commies believe in a free society?

yes

[DinoDoc]

Then why have se seen no examples of that where they came to power?

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Kidicious
It does harm others though. Just as smoking, drinking, overeating etc.. Those who do those things take resources because of their sicknesses. For example, a planned economy would have to have more drug rehabilitation centers for those who become addicted to drugs.

Better that than house them in prisons. Furthermore, your argument could be extended to simple existence, as just existing I make resources unavailable to others.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
Then why have se seen no examples of that where they came to power?

Because you think freedom is working at Wal-mart. And people won't be able to do that anymore.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
Then why have se seen no examples of that where they came to power?

Yes, Nicaragua was such a dark pit of totalitarianism.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara

Originally posted by Kidicious
It does harm others though. Just as smoking, drinking, overeating etc.. Those who do those things take resources because of their sicknesses. For example, a planned economy would have to have more drug rehabilitation centers for those who become addicted to drugs.

Better that than house them in prisons.

I'm not against giving people treatment for their sicknesses, but when they make themselves sick by their behavior that's unfair because they take up resources from other people. Drug rehabilitation is just one thing people who use drugs need. They also have health problems resulting from their drug use. They will need more health care than other people. Also, drug users are less productive at work. Furthermore, they tend to lose their minds and do things like shoot their loved ones and such. I could go on.

Furthermore, your argument could be extended to simple existence, as just existing I make resources unavailable to others.

No, everone deserves to exist. People should not be allowed to make themselves sick so that they can use up more resources than everyone else does.