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  • Originally posted by Winston
    There is still time to avoid a repetition of the 1936 disgrace..
    I'm hoping for maximum embarrassment for both the Chinese government and the IOC. They deserve no less.
    "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
    "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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    • Given how China has been reacting to the Tibetan protests, I've lost faith in them, again. One thing that has always frustrated me with the country is that everytime you think it will get better, it just slips back. I suppose nothing really changes there, and it's foolish to think otherwise. China's only hope to escape this cycle may be to break into smaller independent regions, like Taiwan has done.
      “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
      "Capitalism ho!"

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      • Originally posted by Oerdin


        Speaking of the Chinese intervention in Korea during the Korean war. Essentially it was to push the UN forces back and to bring North Korea into puppet status for China.
        North Korea was a Soviet-alligned state, not Chinese alligned state. And the Chinese made it clear to McArthur to stay away from the Yalu. The man wanted war with China, and war with China he got.
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        • Originally posted by DaShi
          China's only hope to escape this cycle may be to break into smaller independent regions, like Taiwan has done.
          Given the last election, it seems like the majority of people in Taiwan aren't ready for de jure independence yet.
          If you don't like reality, change it! me
          "Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
          "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
          "Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw

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          • Originally posted by aneeshm

            What I happen to find far more fascinating than the fun fact in question is that you happen to know so much about your housemate's anatomy.
            Well, when a man and a woman live in the same house, drink at the same bar, and come home staggering blind drunk and relieve themselves of liquid waste in the same waypoints in public, a gal tends to notice a repeat exposure of blue buttock.

            Those of you who remember me posting back in 2000 may recall a height-peeing competition I had with HMB, Willcox, and Benway - three male housemates. I still managed to win.
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            • Originally posted by GePap


              Given the last election, it seems like the majority of people in Taiwan aren't ready for de jure independence yet.


              1. Choosing Mr. Ma doesn't mean that they are not ready. That's poor logic.

              2. Are you aware of Mr. Ma's stance on China?

              3. What's your point?
              Last edited by DaShi; March 24, 2008, 20:48.
              “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
              "Capitalism ho!"

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              • Oh and Gepap, give up the whole "I know better than you attitude," because as I have you, as Kuci has shown you, as Asher has shown you, as KH has shown you, and as whoelse has shown you (I don't read all your threads), you clearly don't. Plus, you'd be less of an ass that way. Otherwise, you're just another unfunny Wiggy. And no one wants to be that.
                “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
                "Capitalism ho!"

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                • Oh and you've just been Gepap'd!
                  “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
                  "Capitalism ho!"

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                  • as Kuci has shown you, as Asher has shown you, as KH has shown you


                    I'm first in that list? I'm flattered.

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                    • “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
                      "Capitalism ho!"

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                      • Originally posted by aneeshm
                        In addition to whatever Blake may have to say about this, I would like to add that I also have some sense of how Buddhist monks and monasteries are viewed by the culture which produced them. It's mostly based on their actions. If their monks and others are actually moral ideals, or try to live up to them, then they are viewed with favour. We do not tolerate hypocrisy for long.
                        FWIW.

                        The Buddha made it perfectly clear that Monks are not to take money, and it's just kind of obvious that they aren't meant to take political power.

                        The Buddha made it perfectly clear, that the monks should not be wealthier than the poorest villager...

                        I really don't think that Buddhism in Tibet was doing what Buddhism is supposed to.

                        It's like I said "If only someone had taught them about Karma".

                        If they take power, others will take power over them...

                        There's a lovely metaphor about a mango tree:
                        A king went riding in the forest and encountered a mango tree laden with fruit. He said to his servants: "Go back in the evening and collect the mangoes," because he wanted them for the royal dinner table. The servants went back to the forest and returned to the palace empty-handed and told the king: "Sorry, sir, the mangoes were all gone, there wasn't a single mango left on the tree." the king thought the servants had been too lazy to go back to the forest, so he rode out himself. What he saw instead of the beautiful mango tree laden with fruit, was a pitiful, bedraggled tree, that had been beaten and robbed of its fruit and leaves. Someone, unable to reach all the branches, had broken them and had taken all the fruit. As the king rode a little farther, he came upon another mango tree, beautiful in all its green splendor, but not a single fruit on it. Nobody had wanted to go near it, since there were no fruits, and so it was left in peace. The king went back to his palace, gave his royal crown and scepter to his ministers and said: "You may now have the kingdom, I am going to live in a hut in the forest."
                        The mangoes represent wealth, and the mango tree with mangoes didn't have or allow any peace - everyone wanted it's wealth.
                        Meanwhile, the mango tree without any mangoes, is left in peace, able to perform all the functions of a tree - shade and shelter, stabilize the soil, provide habitat for creatures...

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                        • Asher likes being the pivot man.
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                          • Originally posted by Blake
                            Meanwhile, the mango tree without any mangoes, is left in peace, able to perform all the functions of a tree - shade and shelter, stabilize the soil, provide habitat for creatures...
                            Except reproduce! A more proper analogy would have the King chop his balls off and say to his wife, "Here, this is what you want? Right?"

                            In your story, the King would be eaten by wolves.
                            “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
                            "Capitalism ho!"

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                            • Originally posted by DaShi


                              Except reproduce! A more proper analogy would have the King chop his balls off and say to his wife, "Here, this is what you want? Right?"

                              In your story, the King would be eaten by wolves.
                              I guess no-one ever told you about the the bees and the trees?

                              Most bees are infertile, some (fruit) trees don't carry fruit.

                              There's more to life than producing mini-me's.

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                              • Originally posted by Blake


                                I guess no-one ever told you about the the bees and the trees?

                                Most bees are infertile, some (fruit) trees don't carry fruit.
                                But mango trees do! The infertile bees are slaves to the queen bee (Lama).

                                There's more to life than producing mini-me's.
                                Not really. As far as life itself is concerned, the only purpose is to reproduce.

                                But anyway, my version of the story still stands. King is eunoch wolf chow.
                                “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
                                "Capitalism ho!"

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