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  • California court strikes a blow for children; homeschooling virtually outlawed.

    Assume news as it will mean more children will receive a quality education and fewer will just receive indoctrination to religion and hate doctrines. The state court has ordered that the welfare of children vis vi a child's education trumps the parents desire to feed kids only religious information.

    Cliff Notes version: Home schooling is no longer legal in California unless the parent has the age appropriate teaching credential issued by a state certified university. For all intents and purposes this means home schooling is now D.O.A. in California.

    Homeschoolers' setback sends shock waves through state

    A California appeals court ruling clamping down on homeschooling by parents without teaching credentials sent shock waves across the state this week, leaving an estimated 166,000 children as possible truants and their parents at risk of prosecution.

    The homeschooling movement never saw the case coming.

    "At first, there was a sense of, 'No way,' " said homeschool parent Loren Mavromati, a resident of Redondo Beach (Los Angeles County) who is active with a homeschool association. "Then there was a little bit of fear. I think it has moved now into indignation."

    The ruling arose from a child welfare dispute between the Los Angeles County Department of Children and Family Services and Philip and Mary Long of Lynwood, who have been homeschooling their eight children. Mary Long is their teacher, but holds no teaching credential.

    The parents said they also enrolled their children in Sunland Christian School, a private religious academy in Sylmar (Los Angeles County), which considers the Long children part of its independent study program and visits the home about four times a year.

    The Second District Court of Appeal ruled that California law requires parents to send their children to full-time public or private schools or have them taught by credentialed tutors at home.

    Some homeschoolers are affiliated with private or charter schools, like the Longs, but others fly under the radar completely. Many homeschooling families avoid truancy laws by registering with the state as a private school and then enroll only their own children.

    Yet the appeals court said state law has been clear since at least 1953, when another appellate court rejected a challenge by homeschooling parents to California's compulsory education statutes. Those statutes require children ages 6 to 18 to attend a full-time day school, either public or private, or to be instructed by a tutor who holds a state credential for the child's grade level.

    "California courts have held that ... parents do not have a constitutional right to homeschool their children," Justice H. Walter Croskey said in the 3-0 ruling issued on Feb. 28. "Parents have a legal duty to see to their children's schooling under the provisions of these laws."

    Parents can be criminally prosecuted for failing to comply, Croskey said.

    "A primary purpose of the educational system is to train school children in good citizenship, patriotism and loyalty to the state and the nation as a means of protecting the public welfare," the judge wrote, quoting from a 1961 case on a similar issue.
    Union pleased with ruling

    The ruling was applauded by a director for the state's largest teachers union.

    "We're happy," said Lloyd Porter, who is on the California Teachers Association board of directors. "We always think students should be taught by credentialed teachers, no matter what the setting."

    A spokesman for the state Department of Education said the agency is reviewing the decision to determine its impact on current policies and procedures. State Superintendent of Public Instruction Jack O'Connell issued a statement saying he supports "parental choice when it comes to homeschooling."

    Brad Dacus, president of the Pacific Justice Institute, which agreed earlier this week to represent Sunland Christian School and legally advise the Long family on a likely appeal to the state Supreme Court, said the appellate court ruling has set a precedent that can now be used to go after homeschoolers. "With this case law, anyone in California who is homeschooling without a teaching credential is subject to prosecution for truancy violation, which could require community service, heavy fines and possibly removal of their children under allegations of educational neglect," Dacus said.

    Parents say they choose homeschooling for a variety of reasons, from religious beliefs to disillusionment with the local public schools.

    Homeschooling parent Debbie Schwarzer of Los Altos said she's ready for a fight.

    Schwarzer runs Oak Hill Academy out of her Santa Clara County home. It is a state-registered private school with two students, she said, noting they are her own children, ages 10 and 12. She does not have a teaching credential, but she does have a law degree.

    "I'm kind of hoping some truancy officer shows up on my doorstep," she said. "I'm ready. I have damn good arguments."

    She opted to teach her children at home to better meet their needs.

    The ruling, Schwarzer said, "stinks."
    Began as child welfare case

    The Long family legal battle didn't start out as a test case on the validity of homeschooling. It was a child welfare case.

    A juvenile court judge looking into one child's complaint of mistreatment by Philip Long found that the children were being poorly educated but refused to order two of the children, ages 7 and 9, to be enrolled in a full-time school. He said parents in California have a right to educate their children at home.

    The appeals court told the juvenile court judge to require the parents to comply with the law by enrolling their children in a school, but excluded the Sunland Christian School from enrolling the children because that institution "was willing to participate in the deprivation of the children's right to a legal education."

    The decision could also affect other kinds of homeschooled children, including those enrolled in independent study or distance learning through public charter schools - a setup similar to the one the Longs have, Dacus said.

    Charter school advocates disagreed, saying Thursday that charter schools are public and are required to employ only credentialed teachers to supervise students - whether in class or through independent study.
    Ruling will apply statewide

    Michael Smith, president of the Home School Legal Defense Association, said the ruling would effectively ban homeschooling in the state.

    "California is now on the path to being the only state to deny the vast majority of homeschooling parents their fundamental right to teach their own children at home," he said in a statement.

    But Leslie Heimov, executive director of the Children's Law Center of Los Angeles, which represented the Longs' two children in the case, said the ruling did not change the law.

    "They just affirmed that the current California law, which has been unchanged since the last time it was ruled on in the 1950s, is that children have to be educated in a public school, an accredited private school, or with an accredited tutor," she said. "If they want to send them to a private Christian school, they can, but they have to actually go to the school and be taught by teachers."

    Heimov said her organization's chief concern was not the quality of the children's education, but their "being in a place daily where they would be observed by people who had a duty to ensure their ongoing safety."
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  • #2
    Bottom line: Education of minors is compulsory in California and state law requires teachers to be tested, licensed, and credentialed by the state. Very, very few home schooling parents have the necissary creditials and most of just religious seporatists who don't want their children knowing anything but religious doctrines.

    The state court has ruled this is an unlawful because it violates California's compulsory education laws from the 19th century.
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    • #3
      The Second District Court of Appeal ruled that California law requires parents to send their children to full-time public or private schools or have them taught by credentialed tutors at home.
      Students only being officially taught by credentialed teachers.
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      • #4
        You realize, of course, that your joy is based on two premises:

        -that public schooling in CA is effective despite being the largest school system in the country, having to deal with a vast number of Mexican immigrants' kids who don't speak English, etc.

        -that people only homeschool to teach their kids creationism, and never for fear that their child will get lost in the system.

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        • #5
          I'm the last person to be accused of being religious and I see merit in home schooling. You are making assumptions Oerdin.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Oerdin


            Students only being officially taught by credentialed teachers.
            Not hard to get credentialed. Any person with a college degree could take about a half dozen college courses and get credentialed. I expect a cottage industry of credentialed tutors to now spring up. One tutor could easily work 3-4 families. Give it two years and it will be back the way it was, just slightly more expensive for the homeschoolers who will consider it money well spent.
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            • #7
              Mary Long?
              Mary Long is a hypocrite
              She does all the things that she tells us not to do
              Selling filth from a corner shop
              And knitting patterns to the high street queue
              She paints roses, even makes them smell good
              And then she draws titties on the khazy wall
              Drowns kittens just to get a thrill
              And writes sermons in the Sunday Chronicle
              Graffiti in a public toilet
              Do not require skill or wit
              Among the **** we all are poets
              Among the poets we are ****.

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              • #8
                MY brother home schools his kids - 2 are now in college and doing quite well. MY neighbor home schooled her kids - both are in college doing quite well. No one cares more about thier children then their parents. I personally would hav homeschooled my children if we both didn't have to work.


                LA graduation rate is 44%, I think most parents would have better than a 1 in 2 chance of home schooling their child thru graduation. Detroit graduation rate is 21%. I think the true crime is forcing children to attend these schools.

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                • #9
                  CA gives a quality education?
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                  • #10
                    My experience has been that home schooled kids outperform public schooled kids by a fairly large margin presumably because the parents are empassioned about making education a priority. As for the creationistas, that segment is so small as to not even merit consideration.
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                    • #11
                      I thought home-schooling was a settled issue, at least as far as the law goes. It's surprising to see the issue resurface.

                      With regard to the credentials, parochial schools have been operating without credentialed teachers forever and I haven't heard anybody talking negatively about the education offered.
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                      • #12
                        People often accuse parents who homeschool as being religious nuts trying to indoctrinate their children but more often than not it's related to the public schools in the area. Sometimes the public school system sucks enough that it can be for the better. Thankfully that wasn't the case where I grew up.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by DinoDoc
                          CA gives a quality education?
                          It did before Reagan and the following governors began cutting funding for education. We fell from No. 1 in the nation to Number 49. Under Gray Davis, we clawed back to No. 45, but with Arnold we're back down to 48.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by DinoDoc
                            CA gives a quality education?
                            They were tired of the public school system being embarassed.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Zkribbler
                              Random whining
                              So does that mean that Oerdin didn't know what he was talking about?
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                              For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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