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    who needs enemies? Seems like McCain's charisma is bringing out support from the worst kind of nutjobs.

    McCain and Pastor John Hagee

    By LIBBY QUAID
    53 minutes ago



    PHOENIX - John McCain is refusing to renounce the endorsement of a prominent Texas televangelist who Democrats say peddles anti-Catholic and other intolerant speech.

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    Instead, the Republican presidential candidate issued a statement Friday afternoon saying he had unspecified disagreements with the San Antonio megachurch leader, John Hagee. Hagee endorsed him at a news conference Wednesday in San Antonio.

    "However, in no way did I intend for his endorsement to suggest that I in turn agree with all of Pastor Hagee's views, which I obviously do not," McCain said in the statement.

    His campaign issued the statement after two days of criticism from the Democratic National Committee, the Catholic League and Catholics United.

    Democrats quoted Hagee as saying the Catholic Church conspired with Nazis against the Jews and that Hurricane Katrina was God's retribution for homosexual sin, and they recited his demeaning comments about women and flip remarks about slavery.

    "Hagee's hate speech has no place in public discourse, and McCain's embrace of this figure raises serious questions about John McCain's character and his willingness to do anything to win," said Tom McMahon, executive director of the Democratic National Committee.

    McCain was pressed on the issue Friday morning in Round Rock, Texas. Hagee "supports what I stand for and believe in," McCain said.

    "When he endorses me, that does not mean that I endorse everything that he stands for and believes in," McCain said. "I don't have to agree with everyone who endorses my campaign."

    He added that he was "proud" of Hagee's spiritual leadership of his congregation at the 17,000-member Cornerstone Church.

    The Catholic League and Catholics United called on McCain to reject the endorsement.

    "By publicly addressing this issue, you will reaffirm to the American public and to Catholics that intolerance and bigotry have no place in American presidential campaigns," Chris Korzen, executive director of Catholics United, wrote McCain in a letter sent Thursday.

    McCain's response to the two days of criticism stood in contrast to his rapid denunciation of a radio talk show host who denigrated Barack Obama, repeatedly using Obama's middle name, Hussein, and calling him a "hack, Chicago-style" politician.

    McCain immediately apologized and said he repudiated the statements of the radio host, Bill Cunningham, while warming up a Cincinnati crowd for McCain on Tuesday.

    "Any comment that is disparaging of either Senator Clinton or Senator Obama is totally inappropriate," McCain said at the time.
    A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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    I always like the approach of taking the money then publicly saying you did but you don't like the source. The nutbars get a public denounciation and are poorer in some way (money, influence, whatever) and you The Candidate get to do the right thing.

    Eventually the nutbars will figure it out and stop paying to be embarassed.

    edit - Of course you can't keep the money. In this case I would suggest a donation to the Catholics in some way.
    "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
    "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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    • #3
      We had a Catholic president once.
      “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
      "Capitalism ho!"

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      • #4
        You're not really in trouble until you elect one of them damn joos. Or even worse, a muslim (or someone with a muslim name...)
        "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
        "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Wezil
          I always like the approach of taking the money then publicly saying you did but you don't like the source. The nutbars get a public denounciation and are poorer in some way (money, influence, whatever) and you The Candidate get to do the right thing.

          Eventually the nutbars will figure it out and stop paying to be embarassed.

          edit - Of course you can't keep the money. In this case I would suggest a donation to the Catholics in some way.
          Seems like McCain is a flip-flopper; I am taking the money from Hagee but I do not like Hagee.
          A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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          • #6
            He needed to renounce the endorsement (now is too late) and give any monies to someone the hate monger "man of god" hates.
            "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
            "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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            • #7
              McCain said that he would not renounce Hagee's money/endorsement.
              A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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              • #8
                Yeah, I know. I think he played it wrong. But hey, what do I know about how this will play in the US.
                "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
                "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Wezil
                  Yeah, I know. I think he played it wrong. But hey, what do I know about how this will play in the US.

                  Good point . . .



                  what DO you know?
                  A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                  • #10
                    What's your opinion of teh NOI endorsment of Obama?
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Wezil
                      Or even worse, a muslim (or someone with a muslim name...)
                      Don't worry, that's not going to happen.
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                      • #12
                        I don't see what the big deal is. There are all manner of protestant preachers who trash the RCC. If McCain refused the endorsement once, he would be spending all of his days refusing endorsements.
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                        • #13
                          This is an interesting twist of all the things to hold up against Hagee, why don't you be honest here Mr. Fun and tell us what you really feel.

                          Somehow I doubt the thing you really have a problem with is the fact that Hagee is less then friendly to the Catholics.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by DanS
                            I don't see what the big deal is. There are all manner of protestant preachers who trash the RCC. If McCain refused the endorsement once, he would be spending all of his days refusing endorsements.
                            Wow! This is probably one of the most bigotted things ever said on this forum. Good job DanS. Way to show what a ****** you are!
                            “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
                            "Capitalism ho!"

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
                              This is an interesting twist of all the things to hold up against Hagee, why don't you be honest here Mr. Fun and tell us what you really feel.

                              Somehow I doubt the thing you really have a problem with is the fact that Hagee is less then friendly to the Catholics.
                              Hagee is a bigot against various minority groups including gays/lesbians. He's also incredibly sexist when it comes to women and general. And he has no problems harboring hatred toward Catholics.
                              A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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