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"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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Re: a solid troll that hijacked the discussion, no wonder the mods hate you
nay. twas a troll thread from teh OP. Did Nostromo think we would all be having a reasoned discussion here with a thread about this...?Originally posted by VJ
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Like Bush?!Originally posted by Perfection
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Religionists are generally starving in mud huts and barter for stuff.
I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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I said generally, buttface. There's exceptions.APOSTOLNIK BEANIE BERET BICORNE BIRETTA BOATER BONNET BOWLER CAP CAPOTAIN CHADOR COIF CORONET CROWN DO-RAG FEDORA FEZ GALERO HAIRNET HAT HEADSCARF HELMET HENNIN HIJAB HOOD KABUTO KERCHIEF KOLPIK KUFI MITRE MORTARBOARD PERUKE PICKELHAUBE SKULLCAP SOMBRERO SHTREIMEL STAHLHELM STETSON TIARA TOQUE TOUPEE TRICORN TRILBY TURBAN VISOR WIG YARMULKE ZUCCHETTOComment
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HuckabeeOriginally posted by Perfection
I said generally, buttface. There's exceptions.
I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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Yes, he's an exception too.APOSTOLNIK BEANIE BERET BICORNE BIRETTA BOATER BONNET BOWLER CAP CAPOTAIN CHADOR COIF CORONET CROWN DO-RAG FEDORA FEZ GALERO HAIRNET HAT HEADSCARF HELMET HENNIN HIJAB HOOD KABUTO KERCHIEF KOLPIK KUFI MITRE MORTARBOARD PERUKE PICKELHAUBE SKULLCAP SOMBRERO SHTREIMEL STAHLHELM STETSON TIARA TOQUE TOUPEE TRICORN TRILBY TURBAN VISOR WIG YARMULKE ZUCCHETTOComment
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You asked what differentiated Jones from the typical Sunday Morning sermonizer, did you not? Don't start quibling because you don't like the answer given.Originally posted by Asher
Religion transcends politics.
I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator RubioComment
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Yes we all know Arabs were good with numbers, your red herrings are getting stale. The point is that this 'crazy start' you say all religions have is NOT the product of the religion but of social circumstances. As people have started to evolve out of huts and castles with malaria, they also behave less like barbarians and use religion less to justify their murderous cravings and more for peace.The only difference between Jones' cult and other religions is that he had fewer followers. All religions start out crazy and have to moderate themselves to become socially acceptable on a large scale. Mormonism is probably the best contemporary example.
Christianity is daft anyway. What other religion tries to get you to believe that three things are substantially the same as one thing (although this did lead medieval philosophers to propose many interesting theories about the nature of identity). At least Judaism and Islam have some intellectual credibility.
The fact that Jones' cult behaved like this is indicative of the stupidity of his racist black followers, their insanity, and their POVERTY AND COMPLETE LACK OF SOCIAL OR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. Take your pick, it has nothing to do with god, thanks.
Yes it was SpotswoodOriginally posted by Alinestra Covelia
Yo Wiglaf did you change your avatar? I could have sworn it was something different last night but I was very tired.
Wasn't it that dude from Team America after the big explosion?
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Jones was once a preacher at a mainstream Christian church.Originally posted by Wiglaf
Yes we all know Arabs were good with numbers, your red herrings are getting stale. The point is that this 'crazy start' you say all religions have is NOT the product of the religion but of social circumstances. As people have started to evolve out of huts and castles with malaria, they also behave less like barbarians and use religion less to justify their murderous cravings and more for peace.
The fact that Jones' cult behaved like this is indicative of the stupidity of his racist black followers, their insanity, and their POVERTY AND COMPLETE LACK OF SOCIAL OR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. Take your pick, it has nothing to do with god, thanks.
I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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He also preyed on the poor and the insane. You can't blame religion when there are so clearly other factors at work here. These people in Jonestown had persistent problems with diarrhea, malnutrition, and starvation. They were also stupid and paranoid black people who distrusted whites. Furthermore, they were bat**** insane, as evidenced by the audio tape in the OP.
Blaming the mass suicide on religion is like blaming America's complete ownage of the Indians on religion. Yes, Americans were religious and used the 'destiny' angle a lot. But they really wanted the land more than anything.Comment
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"Jones was once a preacher at a mainstream Christian church."
Originally posted by Wiglaf
He also preyed on the poor and the insane.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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Stop making me agree with you!Originally posted by Wiglaf
He also preyed on the poor and the insane. You can't blame religion when there are so clearly other factors at work here. These people in Jonestown had persistent problems with diarrhea, malnutrition, and starvation. They were also stupid and paranoid black people who distrusted whites. Furthermore, they were bat**** insane, as evidenced by the audio tape in the OP.
Blaming the mass suicide on religion is like blaming America's complete ownage of the Indians on religion. Yes, Americans were religious and used the 'destiny' angle a lot. But they really wanted the land more than anything.
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Land to build churches on. And I wouldn't throw around the word insane too much if I were you.Originally posted by Wiglaf
But they really wanted the land more than anything.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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No, land for trade, farming, and the booming population. And to think that you can call me insane, you're still so hung up about slavery that you think America can do nothing right well to hell with you!!1Comment
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You need all of those things for churches.Originally posted by Wiglaf
No, land for trade, farming, and the booming population.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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