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Ireland is the one country having a referendum on this - and that's only because the constitution says they have to as all the major political parties here are in support.Originally posted by C0ckney
some might remember this better as the european constitution, rejected by french and dutch voters in 2005. now after a few words have been changed, it is being forced through with the utter contempt for democracy that we've come to expect from the EU.
It doesn't really bother me but if the Irish voters (not sure if the EU nationals living here get to vote on this - probably not) turn it down I will laugh.Never give an AI an even break.Comment
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It would bother me if a guy who supported the invasion of Iraq based on no evidence, going as far as to say that "if Americans won't go, we'll go alone", became president of the EU. He's not just another member country head of state, he's a dangerous beserker.Comment
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Naw, he was just a guy willing to say anything to pass his chosen policy.
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Brits should join the euro before there is any talk of one of them getting such a high-profile job
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Originally posted by Cort Haus
EU = 4th Reich
One can only hope...
In any case the Lizbon treaty is much better than what the EU was before it.
It was a terrible waste of time, the rejection of the constitution. Anywho this whole the boy who cried democracy is dying routin anti-EU brits got going isn't doing anyone any good. For the time being EU countries respect human rights more than any other countries in the world, are more eco-friendly than most countries in the said world and have overall better welfare systems than said countires in said world.
I think if voters make stupid descisions they should be ignored.
PS Now If I was made president of the EU, I'd begin drastic reforms that would grant the Brits desire to reform the EU into the first... skipped bit.... for a safe and secure society!
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F**k no! It took us long enough for us to get rid of him as Prime MinisterOriginally posted by Cort Haus
Tony wants to be the President of the EU
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Originally posted by Cort Haus
Interestingly, though perhaps not surprisingly, nowhere does the article feature the words "elected" or "democracy".
EU = 4th Reich
Comical. I'd love it if Britain (well England and Wales, since Scotland are on the verge of dumping the union) left the EU.
Not because I don't like the EU, but because Britain is a drag in every on the EU's operations. Britain (well England and Wales) needs to understand that its function in this world is to be the US **** warmer.Only feebs vote.Comment
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QFTOriginally posted by Agathon
Comical. I'd love it if Britain (well England and Wales, since Scotland are on the verge of dumping the union) left the EU.
Not because I don't like the EU, but because Britain is a drag in every on the EU's operations. Britain (well England and Wales) needs to understand that its function in this world is to be the US **** warmer.
Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez DávilaComment
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if irish voters reject it like in 1999 they'll simply ask them vote again until they make the right desicion.Originally posted by CerberusIV
Ireland is the one country having a referendum on this - and that's only because the constitution says they have to as all the major political parties here are in support.
It doesn't really bother me but if the Irish voters (not sure if the EU nationals living here get to vote on this - probably not) turn it down I will laugh.
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Jawohl!Originally posted by BeBro
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what i'd like to know is if the EU (and the direction it's going in) is such a good thing, then why won't our dear leaders make the case for it and tell us ignorant plebs why we should be voting for it?Originally posted by Krill
I think the EU can be a good thing. It needs good people to force it through though, so...
instead we are told not to worry our pretty heads, it might be unpopular but it's for our own good, so we should just sit down, shut up and take it. even worse, some people actually buy into this."The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.
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You are, therefore, no democrat. The people are sometimes (often?) silly. Deal with it, or deal with the fact that you're an authoritarian.I think if voters make stupid descisions they should be ignored.
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[q=C0ckney]what i'd like to know is if the EU (and the direction it's going in) is such a good thing, then why won't our dear leaders make the case for it and tell us ignorant plebs why we should be voting for it?[/q]
Because it isn't just the average voter who is as thick as two short planks.You just wasted six ... no, seven ... seconds of your life reading this sentence.Comment
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Euros have to be better then risking getting slipped Scottish Pounds.Originally posted by MarkG
Brits should join the euro before there is any talk of one of them getting such a high-profile job
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