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[Perfection]

Can't we just agree that we're all arrogant dicks?

[Fake Boris]

Lao Tzu : "the first thing about the Way, is that the Spoken Way isn't the Way."

[Fake Boris]

Or Wittgenstein: "There is assuredly some Unsayable. It shows itself, it is the Mystique".

[Agathon]

Originally posted by Oncle Boris
Or Wittgenstein: "There is assuredly some Unsayable. It shows itself, it is the Mystique".

To be fair, he later disavowed that book.

[Agathon]

Originally posted by Perfection

That's a joke, right?

Not really. We have a wide variety of drugs to help delusional people. After all, if someone believed that fairies were visiting his home and crapping in his tea, we would surely recommend some form of therapy.

But apparently not in the case of a Jewish carpenter who rose from the dead and saved the universe.

[Fake Boris]

Originally posted by Agathon


To be fair, he later disavowed that book.

I'm not an expert on Wittgenstein, but apparently the New Wittgensteinians (amongst them, Cora Diamond and James Conant) claim he didn't really. I have a friend who is making a thesis on this topic.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Oncle Boris
It's people like you who are arrogant, thinking that any kind of experience or knowledge can be shared on the public place.

I am an arrogant person. I think we all are to come to a place like this and try to convince people of our beliefs, but I'm not so arrogant to believe that I've been created by an all powerfull being that watches over me and makes sure I'm always taken care of. I'm not special. I'm born to suffer just like everyone else. There is no order to the universe. It's one big **** hole, and I'm just a small part of it just like you and all of us.

You can look at the world and see how ****ed up it is and think there is some reason for that because you are special and there is a God who loves you are you can just accept reality. The former is much harder and tougher, but in the long run it's better, and you will be happier. Society will be better as well.

[Perfection]

Originally posted by Agathon
Not really. We have a wide variety of drugs to help delusional people. After all, if someone believed that fairies were visiting his home and crapping in his tea, we would surely recommend some form of therapy.

Therapies like these generally don't work except for people with diseases like schizophernia. Alien abuductees aren't helped by therapy and certainly not drugs alone.

You can't pop a pill that replaces one ideology with another.

Don't teat religion like it's a mental illness, becasue it ain't one.

[Patroklos]

We already have a pill that cures communism.

[BlackCat]

Originally posted by Perfection
Don't teat religion like it's a mental illness, becasue it ain't one.

Mental illness - probably not, delusions, certainly yes.

[BlackCat]

Originally posted by Elok
Thank you, BlackCat. Before you chipped in just now, I was going to be the guy who just didn't know when to STFU in this thread. But you took that bullet for me. That was almost Christlike. Are you sure you don't believe?

Well, I'm a beliver; a beliver in defending peoples right to express their pov's even if I have to take a bullet to do that

Oh, that goes even if I think the pov is silly

[Elok]

Originally posted by Kidicious
You make it so easy to hate Christians. I know they aren't all like you though.

Sorry, I didn't know only atheists were allowed to act condescending. I must have missed that post; could you direct me to it?

Perf, I'm an arrogant dick. Pleased to meetcha. Did you not get my PM, or did you just not want to add "burnoose" to the list in your sig for some other reason? I guess it is pretty big already.

[Fake Boris]

Originally posted by Kidicious
I am an arrogant person. I think we all are to come to a place like this and try to convince people of our beliefs, but I'm not so arrogant to believe that I've been created by an all powerfull being that watches over me and makes sure I'm always taken care of. I'm not special. I'm born to suffer just like everyone else. There is no order to the universe. It's one big **** hole, and I'm just a small part of it just like you and all of us.

You've probably missed the part that says God love all people. That's why smart people, like Malraux or Nietzsche, noticed Christianism is actually anarchism, making every soul equal in front of God.

You can look at the world and see how ****ed up it is and think there is some reason for that because you are special and there is a God who loves you are you can just accept reality. The former is much harder and tougher, but in the long run it's better, and you will be happier. Society will be better as well.

Obviously, society would be better if everyone thought like you.

[Elok]

Originally posted by BlackCat
Well, I'm a beliver; a beliver in defending peoples right to express their pov's even if I have to take a bullet to do that

Oh, that goes even if I think the pov is silly

Oh, I understand that, and I wasn't censoring you or suggesting you should be censored. It's just that, after the third or fourth person shot down the claim of "superstition" in the exact same way, you'd be wiser just to stop, methinks. These people dislike the number, but they're obviously not afraid having the phone number will bring a curse on them or anything like that--yet, pages and pages later, people are still claiming as much.

[Blaupanzer]

Originally posted by Wezil
The chinese have an issue with the unlucky number "4".

Actually, it's the Siamese -- Thais -- who have this problem. I am told that many buildings in that country have a dummy fourth floor only a couple of feet high. This is so no one will say "the fifth floor is really the fourth; as several have said in reference to the thirteenth floor in the west.