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  • #31
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    • #32
      Originally posted by OneFootInTheGrave


      You can take our casinos, but you can never take our
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      • #33
        Originally posted by Zkribbler
        I'm part Lakota. You white eyes usually call us "Sioux," which is the Piute word for "enemy."

        The Lakota are generally located in the Dakotas. Hey, those are Red States. Okay, let 'em secedes.

        They are the solidly blue areas of those states. And this guy probably doesn't represent the whole Tribe.

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        • #34
          There were/are several sects of Sioux. Northern, Central and Southern. Each section having different tribes in the geographic location. Just because they were all Sioux, doesn't mean they all got along. They didn't sit around singing "Kumbaya" or anything similar.
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          • #35
            And of course the tribes that the lakota's kicked out of the area when they moved in.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Lord Avalon
              The real question is how many casinos do they have?
              It would seem that they have none.

              It would be difficult to find a more desperate group of Americans than the North and South Dakota Sioux. The unemployment rate tops 80 percent and most residents live below the poverty level, with the average annual income on the reservation less than $8,000.

              The casino-driven economic boom enjoyed by some tribes has bypassed the Sioux, whose remote location puts them beyond the reach of most tourist traffic. The result is a host of social ills ranging from suicide and substance abuse to crime and homelessness.


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              The plight of these people sounds pretty bad. My guess would be that they are doing this to try and get some new treaties that will give them some much deserved and needed aid.
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              • #37
                Is this from the Onion?

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                • #38
                  Well guys, I think there is only one option left.


                  Let's put together a army and go filibuster the country.
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui


                    I don't think its all that many people, though. And, of course, US authorities would ignore it. I mean, really, it is still US land, we just allow them to have tribal government there. They still have to abide by federal law. So, people without drivers' licenses will still go to jail and those that refuse to pay taxes will have liens on their houses, etc.
                    I didn't think they had to abide by federal law. I thought they were essentually their own country. Like that huge reservation in Arizona. They even use a different time zone than Arizona. As Arizona doesn't using daylight savings time, but the indian reservation does.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Wezil
                      Imran -

                      Well of course that's why I wondered how far they are prepared to go. If they declare independence in name only but take no meaningful steps to assert it then I agree, the gov will do nothing. If they start blocking highways into/out of "sovereign" territory, charge tolls, etc, the gov can't just ignore it.
                      It would be interesting if they did. Now if the time to do it. In our kindler, gentler society, would we put up with the goverment using force on poor defenseless indians? I don't think we would put up with it (I wouldn't).

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                      • #41
                        We put up with it. There's a native occupation that has been going on not far from here for well over a year despite court orders to vacate. They ignore the court and the police don't dare move in and move them.
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Dis


                          I didn't think they had to abide by federal law. I thought they were essentually their own country. Like that huge reservation in Arizona. They even use a different time zone than Arizona. As Arizona doesn't using daylight savings time, but the indian reservation does.
                          They don't have to abide by state law, but federal law probably does have to be followed.

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                          • #43
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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Koyaanisqatsi

                              It's pretty clear that it won't matter either way, though.

                              Or do you expect to see UN peacekeepers setting up shop in North Dakota? That'd be funny...
                              If they want to pretend it is the 19th century again then I suggest the US Army show them exactly how red skins got treated back in those days.
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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Wezil


                                Not necessarily. They weren't wiped out LordShiva.

                                He could concievably be 2nd generation and have a parent that is Cherokee. That wasn't the issue.
                                Way to miss teh point, Wezil

                                If he's part Cherokee, then teh Cherokee branch is part of his family, in which case his family has been here for thousands of years.
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