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  • #106
    You know damned well what I meant, and it had nothing to do with disrespecting the NG.

    As for the Dems in this election, I'm not counting them out, really, but I've no intention of getting my hopes up, because:

    1) The Dems could easily screw this up; and
    2) I don't even really like the Dems all that much, and it's easy to imagine a Dem I don't like winning and proving to be a crappy President.

    -Arrian
    grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

    The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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    • #107
      You know damned well what I meant, and it had nothing to do with disrespecting the NG.
      I did, and my reply was entirely valid. Well in hindsight, coming from you I should probably not assume malicious intent.

      As for the Dems in this election, I'm not counting them out, really, but I've no intention of getting my hopes up, because:

      1) The Dems could easily screw this up; and
      2) I don't even really like the Dems all that much, and it's easy to imagine a Dem I don't like winning and proving to be a crappy President.


      I am not happy with any candidate running on either side. I can count the Congressmen that I trust on two hands.

      Why oh why couldn't the 9/11 guys have picked the white house and capital building instead...
      "The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.

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      • #108
        I did, and my reply was entirely valid.
        We're just gonna have to disagree on that one, I guess.

        Why oh why couldn't the 9/11 guys have picked the white house and capital building instead...
        Well, I kinda think they did (pick on of those). The 4th plane...

        -Arrian
        grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

        The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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        • #109
          They should have prioritized better.

          I have a bad taste in my mouth for joking about this
          "The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.

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          • #110
            Of course in 2004 they thought having a real honest to god decorated war hero
            Only after he threw in his medals.

            I didn't know the democrats believed in war 'heroes'.
            Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
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            • #111
              There's lots of talk in the press that Obama-Clinton is now a dead heat. I never expected Obama to be in it at this point.
              I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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              • #112
                He was always in. The difference is that the momentum is favoring him right now. The problem for Obama is that while he has caught up in NH and SC, he has stagnated at a miniscule lead in IA. The probability of his nomination has moved from a little over a third to about 40% IMO.
                "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
                -Bokonon

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                • #113
                  In retrospect, Clinton's fundamental mistake was that she competed in IA. Edwards was living there for years, and Obama was from a neighboring state, so she could've said that a win wasn't possible. If she didn't compete there, she could've shored up NH while the other two viciously tear each other apart in becoming the anti-Clinton. And with her huge national lead, she could've afforded that loss (unlike, say, Clark in '04 or McCain this cycle).

                  Now it's difficult to see her win the nomination if she were dealt a blow in IA. Which she only has under a third chance of taking. Her best strategy might be to throw some support in certain precincts towards Edwards, whom she could more easily dispatch in NH and SC.

                  All things considered, I'd put her odds at just over 40%.
                  "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
                  -Bokonon

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                  • #114
                    Originally posted by Patroklos
                    Why oh why couldn't the 9/11 guys have picked the white house and capital building instead...
                    QFT. Jack Ryan for President

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                    • #115
                      Let's remove all doubt that Republicans believe that 24 represents reality. There are already enough posts in this thread alone to perpetuate it.
                      “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
                      "Capitalism ho!"

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                      • #116
                        Originally posted by Ramo
                        He was always in. The difference is that the momentum is favoring him right now. The problem for Obama is that while he has caught up in NH and SC, he has stagnated at a miniscule lead in IA. The probability of his nomination has moved from a little over a third to about 40% IMO.
                        It seems Obama is concentrating heavily on a few early states hoping wins there will give him a big enough bump to make up for the lack of campaigning and ads in all the other states. That's is best bet but it will be hard given how much more money Hillary has.
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                        • #117
                          Originally posted by DaShi
                          Let's remove all doubt that Republicans believe that 24 represents reality. There are already enough posts in this thread alone to perpetuate it.
                          I'm a Democrat, dufus.

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                          • #118
                            “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
                            "Capitalism ho!"

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