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  • #46
    Originally posted by Vesayen
    No idea but i'd welcome any mod to ban you for personal attacks for that post within 20 seconds of the thread being made.
    Well hell, you make Pekka look succinct.
    Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
    "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
    He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Heraclitus


      Social Democracy
      Libertarian Democracy
      Constitutional monarchy
      .
      .
      .
      .
      Absolute monarchy
      Communism
      .
      Stalinism/Maoism
      .
      Faschism
      Nice, but is this supposed to be a kind of ranking, and how is it an answer to my post?
      Blah

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      • #48
        Originally posted by BeBro


        Nice, but is this supposed to be a kind of ranking, and how is it an answer to my post?
        Yes.

        It tells you I prefer Stalin to Hitler...and most fascists.
        Last edited by Heraclitus; December 5, 2007, 08:36.
        Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
        The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
        The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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        • #49
          Well, tough choice between the Moustachers....like between pest and cholera.
          Blah

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          • #50
            First point is silly, I mean does anyone blindly follow the idea of democracy gfor example? Besides I don't have the time or the will to explain fascism, go read it up on the Wikipedia, in the local library or even the conservapedia for all I care.
            No, its not, because your rsponse to it shows you don't seem to have the slightest clue what fascism is. I believe in all kinds of things, the fact that I follow those beliefs into certain political and social realities does not constitute "blind" or fascism. It could be religion, or it could be the universal rights of life/liberty/pursit of happiness. Everyone has such beliefs, and everyone is not a closet fascist.

            Remember this thread isn't about UH. Your post would be much better if you had put BTW in front of that part. If you want to discus UH with the rest of the world, star a new tread. You’re comment really has nothing to do with my point.
            You brought it up, saying that to disagree with this policy means 1.) you are communist paranoid and 2.) are somehow succeptable to fascism

            The simple fact is people disagree with it because it is retarded, not out of some fantacy pinkophobic fascist paranoia you imagine. So no, this example of yours fails on all accounts.

            I’m saying that regardless if a policy or idea is bad or good it will be dismissed if you simply tag it as communist.
            If the tag is correct, and in the case of universal healthcare "socialist" is the correct tag, then it is a perfectly reasobable and not at all fascist to not support it if you are against socialism.
            "The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Patroklos
              No, its not, because your rsponse to it shows you don't seem to have the slightest clue what fascism is. I believe in all kinds of things, the fact that I follow those beliefs into certain political and social realities does not constitute "blind" or fascism. It could be religion, or it could be the universal rights of life/liberty/pursit of happiness. Everyone has such beliefs, and everyone is not a closet fascist.
              I never said it did constitute fascism!
              You said that whenever people don't agree with a position they call it blind belief. I offered the counterexample of democracy since even its supporters are very critical of some aspects of it (I being such a supporter)!

              Originally posted by Patroklos

              You brought it up, saying that to disagree with this policy means 1.) you are communist paranoid and 2.) are somehow succeptable to fascism

              The simple fact is people disagree with it because it is retarded, not out of some fantacy pinkophobic fascist paranoia you imagine. So no, this example of yours fails on all accounts.
              My English isn't good, but I *certainly* I didn't say that! This may seem subtle to you, but the point wasn’t if it was a good or bad idea, or whether it is socialist or not. I said that people disagree with something simply because someone calls it communist or a socialist policy! UH was an example, I didn’t mean to imply that all the people who disagree with a UH type system are living in McCarthy America.

              Originally posted by Patroklos

              If the tag is correct, and in the case of universal healthcare "socialist" is the correct tag, then it is a perfectly reasobable reason to not support it if you are against socialism.
              Once again: Start a UH thread if you want to discus it!
              I just used it as *one* example of a successful anti-commie scare tactic being employed. It is wrong to dismiss something a priori even if it is Nazi or Communist, its bad because its bad, not because it was proposed by this or the other evil-doing group.


              BTW I think UH was a social democratic agenda for most of its history. I may have started as a communist one, but so did other things you probably would not consider socialist.
              Last edited by Heraclitus; December 5, 2007, 08:37.
              Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
              The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
              The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Heraclitus
                The truth is not your friend in this case DinoDoc.

                BTW Bushhitler is such BS, I mean the guy actually wrote a book and now half a century later a ****** compares him to dublya.

                Oh and America is going fascist, but in a "Benito Mussolini partially incompetent" way.
                Hah, you Nazi sympathiser, you worship Hitler! I knew it all along! Carry on

                P.S. America is the last country on the planet that is going to go fascist. USA

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Dauphin
                  It is very difficult and arduous to create and sustain a democracy - but history shows that closing one down is much simpler.


                  An interesting opening premise. I struggle to name long-standing democratic states that have gone non-democratic. I can more easily name longstanding non-democratic states that have gone democratic.
                  Republican Rome?

                  Athens?

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Vesayen


                    Republican Rome?

                    Athens?
                    @ you if you think those were democracies.
                    THEY!!111 OMG WTF LOL LET DA NOMADS AND TEH S3D3NTARY PEOPLA BOTH MAEK BITER AXP3REINCES
                    AND TEH GRAAT SINS OF THERE [DOCTRINAL] INOVATIONS BQU3ATH3D SMAL
                    AND!!1!11!!! LOL JUST IN CAES A DISPUTANT CALS U 2 DISPUT3 ABOUT THEYRE CLAMES
                    DO NOT THAN DISPUT3 ON THEM 3XCAPT BY WAY OF AN 3XTARNAL DISPUTA!!!!11!! WTF

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                    • #55
                      The latest in a long line of lunatic remarks, just in this lengthy thread.

                      There's that alliteration again. I love it.
                      Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                      "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                      He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                      • #56
                        Who says a representative government gives everyone the franchise?

                        Does it cease to be representative, even if only an extreme minority has a say?

                        Was early America representative? Only wealthy white landowners. For most of our history, half the population could not vote at all. Till the civil rights era, certain races were effectively unable to vote.

                        My point is, it is a matter of degree. Republican Rome and eras of Athenian history were representative.

                        Not saying I agree with the article in the OP, but the death of representative goverment in both Republican Rome and Athens shares several of the bullets on the list.

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                        • #57
                          To say nothing of gender.
                          Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                          "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                          He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                          • #58
                            I mentioned that "For most of our history, half the population could not vote at all."

                            Countries can be less representative then the U.S. and still representative.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by VetLegion


                              Hah, you Nazi sympathiser, you worship Hitler! I knew it all along! Carry on

                              P.S. America is the last country on the planet that is going to go fascist. USA
                              It feels so good to be right.
                              Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
                              The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
                              The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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                              • #60
                                Actually the city-state of Athens is a good example, since any free adult male could vote. The US had slaves until the middle of the 19th century and women couldn’t vote until the 20th century (this is true of almost all countries).
                                Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
                                The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
                                The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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