Genetic manipulation of human beings for the purposes of space exploration

[Zkribbler]

Re: Re: Genetic manipulation of human beings for the purposes of space exploration

Originally posted by BeBro


I think Michael Jackson is one of the pioneers here. He's making the world a better place.

Only in America could a poor, black boy grow up to be a rich, white woman.

[Lancer]

A few weeks ago I actually did some physical labor (please don't worry about me, I've regained my senses) and the next day my back hurt. I think this has to do with the human back being designed for swinging through trees and not for toteing around boulders. However we don't do much swinging through trees these days while carrying things has become more common. So, I think the back needs a redesign. My point is that there could be improvements for the environment in which we now live, how much more for surviving on an alien planet? Zkribs merpeople are a good example. Besides, I've never had a gill job, have you?

Think of the greys, do you believe they evolved that way? I don't, I believe they are the product of scouring the galaxy for spare dna parts and assembleing a being that can survive the most harsh conditions imagineable, and that would be a very cool being to be.

[Dis]

I was reading on wiki about the radiation is space still proves a very difficult challenge, and we still have no way of dealing with the radiation on a mars mission.

If we could make human cells resistant to cosmic radiation...

[Lancer]

The 'mars direct' guy has a plan for shielding the astronauts in the center of the ship. Says that though they would get more rads that it wouldn't be too bad. The equivelent of a few weeks of watching South Park on TV while on a Russian nuke sub...or something like that.

[Elok]

Originally posted by BlackCat
You missed my point - fossile fuels isn't needed to create the nessecary propellants. Even wind mills can deliver the energy needed to produce them, and it's that that make your statement funny.

...and windmills are going to provide the kind of power we now get from fossil fuels? Enough to send rockets full of people to Mars or wherever while still providing for civilian power needs? And supposing they can, are we going to wind-power our enhanced futuristic body parts, or just top them off with old-fashioned petrol now and again? Or will we have nuclear-powered gills?

Or will we just stick with the plain boring old parts nature gave us and add mechanical aids and tools as necessary? That's my guess for the future.

[Lancer]

There are b i l l i o n s of years left in the life of the earth Elok, plenty of time to work out the details. The only thing sure is that the future will likely be shaped by discoveries not yet made and unpredictable to us now. We can only speculate with the tools we have, a mere hundreds of years since the first glimmerings of scientific inquiry. We don't know jack, and all we have is BS, but I'm pretty sure that in a million years many people will be much different and perhaps a few will be basicly the same. Some sort of purist organization missing out on the universe for the sake of their beliefs...who knows?

[Blake]

Some sort of purist organization missing out on the universe for the sake of their beliefs...who knows?

Like those people who know you don't have to go live in the clouds of Uranus in order to be happy .

There will always be a few such fools .

Then again I guess they also know you don't have to have kids in order to be happy, so they'll just die out .

[Bkeela]

Humans must change. Either we create robots more intelligent than us to take control of the galaxy and preserve sentience and biological life, or we change ourselves to better suit space travel and better suit civilization.

Homo sapiens are only one step up from Neanderthals. Enough said really, but Jesus Christ people are retarded. Even highly trained astronauts can't get over primitive, petty, human affairs.

How are Homo sapiens meant to cope in claustrophic living pods in space colonies when we can't even govern a small town properly?

Sorry - Homo sapien deserves extinction.

[Blake]

Originally posted by Bkeela
but Jesus Christ people are retarded.

Now now, not all Christians are retarded!

[Lancer]

Blake, I believe this flesh is not who we are, that it's our souls that define us, and are that which is made in God's image. The artist may craft the clay as he wishes and no matter what shape it assumes the artist remains the same. That is the point the purist organization would be missing, but in the end missing out on the exploration of space would not hurt them come judgement day. The essential dynamic would be the same then as it is now, that they accept Christ and recieve salvation.

[Elok]

Congratulations, you're a pseudo-Gnostic.

[LordShiva]

Re: Re: Re: Genetic manipulation of human beings for the purposes of space exploratio

Originally posted by Aeson


This is the most sensible post I've ever read!

Merpeople

Crab people,
Crab people,
Taste like crab,
Talk like people!

[DanS]

Re: Genetic manipulation of human beings for the purposes of space exploration

Originally posted by Lancer
People were made for this earth but when the environment changes so should our bodies and genetics gives us the tools we need. Our spirits, souls, self awareness or whatever it is that provides the spark will not be altered by altering the double helix imo. Bones that don't decay in space could be one advantage.

It may be that there are space faring civilizations out there that visit us to gather genetic material for the purpose of perfecting themselves, or creating beings of their species able to survive the various environments they encounter. If there is no such space faring civilization then we may well become just such in a million years or ten million. Imagine finding life on an otherwise uninhabited planet that would, by using its dna, allow us to breath methane or amonia, or to withstand terrific gravitational forces.

Perhaps the life forms that survive on volcanic vents in the sea would allow us one day to occupy Venus. Don't change the planet, or change what you can, but change the people.

Human beings manipulated genetically to spaceflight suitability has been imagined. Seikai no Senki (Banner of the Stars) anime is a good one where a certain class of human beings are manipulated for spaceflight and obedience. However, this manipulation turns on the makers -- the genetically manipulated come to rule normal human beings.

[BlackCat]

Originally posted by Elok


...and windmills are going to provide the kind of power we now get from fossil fuels? Enough to send rockets full of people to Mars or wherever while still providing for civilian power needs? And supposing they can, are we going to wind-power our enhanced futuristic body parts, or just top them off with old-fashioned petrol now and again? Or will we have nuclear-powered gills?

Or will we just stick with the plain boring old parts nature gave us and add mechanical aids and tools as necessary? That's my guess for the future.

You are really quite funny.

I mentioned wind mills as a possible source of energy to produce rocket propellants and you think that I belive that wind mills is the future source of energy

I really don't care what future energy sources are, though, one thing I'm very dubious about is that "humans" will be able to live by connecting to a power source - that doesn't make sense.

[Lancer]

Originally posted by Elok
Congratulations, you're a pseudo-Gnostic.

What does this mean or matter?