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  • #31
    Originally posted by Aeson
    Originally posted by Zkribbler
    But before we head off to the other planets and then to the stars, don't forget that 73% of the earth is covered with water. We need merpeople first.
    This is the most sensible post I've ever read!

    Merpeople
    See? I are smart.

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    • #32
      Re: Genetic manipulation of human beings for the purposes of space exploration

      Originally posted by Lancer
      Our spirits, souls, self awareness or whatever it is that provides the spark will not be altered by altering the double helix imo.
      This is true.

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      • #33
        The human body is not exactly the pinnacle of engineering. There's no reason why we won't be able to make it better in whatever aspects we want, together with making it more efficient.
        "Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master" - Commissioner Pravin Lal.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Elok
          None. How will we send rockets to the moon when we've expended the millions and millions of years of fossil fuels that got us so far, Lori?


          *current pic in my my mind : apollo 11's saturn V rocket at the local exxon saying "full tank, please"

          Rockets don't use fossile fuels as propellant.
          With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

          Steven Weinberg

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          • #35
            Originally posted by BlackCat


            *current pic in my my mind : apollo 11's saturn V rocket at the local exxon saying "full tank, please"

            Rockets don't use fossile fuels as propellant.
            No, IIRC they use pure hydrogen and liquid oxygen, which you find lying around in a burnable form everywhere. I believe there's a giant reservoir of H2 molecules under Kentucky that just comes out on its own the moment we take the tap out. That's why you see so many hydrogen-powered cars on the road in America today. You're right, my bad.
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            • #36
              Originally posted by Elok


              No, IIRC they use pure hydrogen and liquid oxygen, which you find lying around in a burnable form everywhere. I believe there's a giant reservoir of H2 molecules under Kentucky that just comes out on its own the moment we take the tap out. That's why you see so many hydrogen-powered cars on the road in America today. You're right, my bad.
              You missed my point - fossile fuels isn't needed to create the nessecary propellants. Even wind mills can deliver the energy needed to produce them, and it's that that make your statement funny.
              With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

              Steven Weinberg

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              • #37
                How often do people who say "this will never be done" turn out to be right?
                "Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master" - Commissioner Pravin Lal.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Eli
                  How often do people who say "this will never be done" turn out to be right?
                  It may be an urban legend, but I think that the nazi's wanted to enter the interior of this planet through a hole at the north pole - currently, it still hasn't happened
                  With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

                  Steven Weinberg

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Eli
                    How often do people who say "this will never be done" turn out to be right?
                    Given that to prove them right, we'd have to be at the end of time, how could they turn out to be right?
                    "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by lord of the mark
                      Given that to prove them right, we'd have to be at the end of time, how could they turn out to be right?
                      Usually we prove them to be wrong much earlier than that.
                      "Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master" - Commissioner Pravin Lal.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Elok
                        Well, they're laughably implausible, for starters. The idea of computers outperforming millennia of evolution is silly
                        Why is that silly ? Especially since they already have done it. Computers can in short time do what evolution needs millenias or even more to do.
                        With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

                        Steven Weinberg

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Eli


                          Usually we prove them to be wrong much earlier than that.

                          duh, elixir of life, transmutation of lead into gold (to get rich), time travel. Just to confine ourselves to technologies, and leave aside non-tech things, like converting China to Christianity, or Germany conquering the world, or reviving feudalism.

                          Probably zillions of other things.

                          But hell, I cant prove that some lead into gold in a commercially feasible way isnt around the corner, or eternal life, or whatever. Or even the conversion of China to Christianity.

                          Of X things that people say are impossible, at any given time t, Y(sub t) things have been done (showing the statement to have been wrong) and (X-Ysubt) things have NOT been done, leaving the statement indeterminate.

                          You cant ever empirically falsify the statement "X will happen, someday"


                          If this leads you to believe that everything proposed or suggested as possible, and not definitely proven physically impossible, WILL happen someday, well ......
                          "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by BlackCat


                            It may be an urban legend, but I think that the nazi's wanted to enter the interior of this planet through a hole at the north pole - currently, it still hasn't happened
                            Doesnt mean it wont happen SOMEDAY, right? Even if you defined it as"The Nazis will enter the interior blah blah blah" After all, its not impossible that they (heaven forbid) will be back.
                            "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by lord of the mark


                              Doesnt mean it wont happen SOMEDAY, right? Even if you defined it as"The Nazis will enter the interior blah blah blah" After all, its not impossible that they (heaven forbid) will be back.
                              Ehrm, I think that a lot of people would be surprised if it happened some day - their theory was that there was a world inside the planet wich could be accessed through said hole.

                              Dropping out the heaven part, I quite agree about your wish about them not return.
                              With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

                              Steven Weinberg

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                              • #45
                                Re: Genetic manipulation of human beings for the purposes of space exploration

                                Originally posted by Lancer
                                Don't change the planet, or change what you can, but change the people.
                                I think Michael Jackson is one of the pioneers here. He's making the world a better place.

                                "I'm starting with teh man in teh mirror...."
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