"Russia will soon be a one party state"

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by VJ

You know, if you'd realize that there is not a single thing wrt to politics (foreign, domestic, or even local ffs -- you're exactly the sort of establishment liberal whose support for politically correct BS ****ed up NYC big time circa 1960-1990, then fled to Virginia and left poor people to deal with the **** they were in)

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot? I left NYC to go to college (not in Virginia, BTW), like thousands of NYC high school grads.

And, BTW, if someone wants to discuss ways Putin has improved Russian democracy (like reducing the power of organized crime, for ex) Id be happy to see such discussion. Im still going to critique things posted that I believe are incorrect.

[Saras]

Originally posted by DanS


Truly shameful.

He likes heavy metal, so maybe not all bad

[Saras]

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=86479

Medvedev :headbang:

[Serb]

Originally posted by lord of the mark


For the govt to pressure employees to vote just to run up the turnout, with clearly partisan intentions, is alreay a tad questionable. Asking them to vote for a particular party, EVEN THOUGH THEY CAN LIE AND SAY THEY DID WHEN THEY DIDNT is even more questionable.

The fact THEY CAN LIE AND SAY THEY DID WHEN THEY DIDN'T make it a pointless idea to ask them to vote for a particular party. That's why it's BS.

[Krill]

Saras

[Serb]

Originally posted by lord of the mark
"Two, the party of Vladimir Putin, which has pledged to continue the policies that have increased average salaries from $81 a month to $550 a month"

cause it was Putins policies that did that, not devaluation in '98, oil prices, or anything else.

Nice unbiased source.

And Putin's policies clearly had no impact on that.

[Krill]

Yay for the middle ground?

[Serb]

Originally posted by lord of the mark
"don't use dirty tricks to get more voters by lying about your opponents, and you wont face the court."

The courts decide which election propaganda is "lying about ones opponents".

And who should decide that? Santa? Harry Potter?

Hmm, that couldnt be abused, now could it?

I might be wrong, but iirc, the rules are very simple: your advertising material shouldn't contain any info about your political opponents.

[Serb]

Originally posted by lord of the mark


You mean like how he goes on and on about the governor who said he wasnt pressured? See, if a western source quotes someone who says theres fraud, then the western source is part of the eevil neocon-Teutonic Knights- false Dmitry- conspiracy against Holy Russia, but if they quote someone (credible or not) who says there wasnt fraud, then this is evidence there wasnt fraud, but not that the western sources just might be presenting balanced views.

Blah-blah-blah.

[Serb]

Originally posted by DanS


The Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe observed our 2004 election, among others.

Yes, I was wrong. But untill 2004 you didn't have foregin observers at your presidential elections, right?

[Serb]

Originally posted by DanS


Truly shameful.

Why?

[Krill]

The way it was phrased?

[Sirotnikov]

http://www.exile.ru/articles/detail.php?ARTICLE_ID=7982&IBLOCK_ID=35

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Serb


And who should decide that? Santa? Harry Potter?

In my country, the voters decide whom to believe.

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Sirotnikov
http://www.exile.ru/articles/detail....2&IBLOCK_ID=35

"The mainstream Party Line holds that President Putin is rolling back Russia's fledgling democracy which flourished under Boris Yeltsin. "


Strawman alert. No one here holds that democracy flourished under Yeltsin, and there was already considerable doubts about Yeltsin at least from his break with the liberals before the '96 election. Despite the Clinton admin remaining committed to him. I was in the US, and I was following the debate such as it was about US policy in Russia. I dont have quotes off the top of my head, but theres been a lot of strawman stuff tossed around about US hero worship for Yeltsin - most of that involves taking views that WERE held here in 1991 and 1992, and projecting them onto 1996 and 1997.