American Policeman aggressor tases dude for no reason

[Donegeal]

Originally posted by Snotty
I was under the impression you didnt argue with american cops.

At least the guy didnt tazer the pregnant woman. now that would have been 1st rate youtube

Though about it; but the probes were still in the first guy!

[MarkG]

Originally posted by Donegeal
He was being placed under arrest, and was attempting to leave the area. That's fleeing.

he didnt attempt to leave any area as he didnt know he was being arrested!

[Wezil]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Thanks Donegal for your post

The officer was an idiot for not telling the guy he was under arrest and not answering how fast the guy was going. But, in spite of that, when the officer told him to turn around, the guy should have realized what was happening.. and he DID turn to back to his car.

Maybe the cop should have yelled at him for another second or so and if he kept walking then tazed him.

Agreed. Without the verbal notice he was under arrest it's hard to claim he was fleeing or resisting. For all we know he was going back to sit in his van or comfort his wife or any number of scenarios.

[Donegeal]

Originally posted by Donegeal
But like I said, the cop should have told him he was being placed under arrest. Since he didn't tell him, he could say he didn't know he was being arrested.

Which I have repeatedly said was the biggest problem.

Common sense would indicate that you're being arrested (or at least detained for some reason) when a cop tells you to turn around and puts your hands behind your back, but there is no accounting for the stupidity of humanity. Thats why you should tell people things in simple straight forward language (such as "I am placing you under arrest.").

[Dinner]

The proper thing to do would have been to take the ticket and then fight it in court. That said the cop was being excessive and hopefully the guy will win a couple of million for police brutality.

[Wezil]

It never does any good to argue with a cop.

If the cop has done something wrong then it can be dealt with later.

[Donegeal]

You are right about fighting it in court. Actually, I would recomend fighting all tickets in court, as just by showing up you will probably get a reduction in fine (even if you don't get it dissmissed).

About the court case... no I don't think any "police brutality" damages could be awarded. However, the department could be taken to task for a bad policy/lack of policy (and the officer could be taken if there was a policy and he didn't follow it).

[Kontiki]

Common sense would also indicate that there was no need to taser the guy at that point, regardless of whatever some ****ty procedure manual says. There was no need to put the guy under arrest, no mention that he was putting him under arrest, no indication why he would be risking arrest in the first place, no danger to the officer and no extenuating circumstances that we didn't see on the video since the whole thing is visible from beginning to end.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by Wezil
Agreed. Without the verbal notice he was under arrest it's hard to claim he was fleeing or resisting. For all we know he was going back to sit in his van or comfort his wife or any number of scenarios.

As Donegal alluded to, he could claim he was an idiot by not realizing turn around and put your hands behind you back was not the officer attempting to arrest you . But yeah, the officer definitely had a clarity problem.

[SlowwHand]

Oerdin, come and play in your fantasy land?

[Wezil]

Imran - And people are stupid. Somebody alluded to the TV law earlier... I've seen Cdn defendants try and "plead the 5th".

[BlackCat]

In ancient times, some tribes had a tendency to rob and pillage their neighbours. They were considered as outcasts and free targets by organised societies.

Later, some kind of control was made when they became part of roman, viking etc armies where their violent behaviour could be channaled into something "productive".

This pattern continues up in the mediveal period where they served as mercenaries - of course serving those that paid the best.

In the victorian time they probably had their golden age - plenty of colonies where nobody actually cared about how they got control, just that they did.

The first half of the 20'ieth century, is a contender as another golden age, but due to the fact that they were bound to only go for communists, jews, capitalists etc, so they couldn't roam free as previous.

Today these tribes has been civilized and they typically serves as police and typically behaves. Thogh, ocationally some recividist member of this tribe acts accordingly to the origin gene pattern, but that is a cheap price to pay.

Try to imagine how the world would look if they weren't under societys control

[Kidlicious]

OMFG. The guy obviously assumed incorrectly that the cop would be reasonable. What an idiot.

[Spec]

Originally posted by Kidicious
OMFG. The guy obviously assumed incorrectly that the cop would be reasonable. What an idiot.

QFT!

Spec.

[Wezil]

An update:

Utah Highway Patrol is trying to expedite its look into wrongdoing in the tasing of a man who refused to sign a traffic ticket.

There's a nine-page Taser policy troopers are expected to know by heart. So, there are a lot of things for investigators to consider in a case caught on video tape near Vernal.

"There are some things on the video tape that concern us. We do have an internal review process, and that's why we are reviewing it," explained Sgt. Jeff Nigbur with the Utah Department of Public Safety.

Nigbur won't say specifically what those concerns are.

If the trooper flubbed, he could face anything from a nasty letter to getting fired.

http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=148&sid=2194653

Time for the officer to dust off the resume...