School shooting in Finland. 7 dead...

[Ari Rahikkala]

Westboro Baptist Church surprises... well... absolutely no-one

[Pekka]

this should lower any crazy person doing things like these.. YOU KNOW this group will be there or something, claiming you are on their side.

I mean... they seem to have a grudge against Sweden, like they have had for a long time. So now being part of Scandinavia makes you a *** or ***-enabler. Quite an interesting point of view. If you are THAT liberal labeling people and regions, doesn't it make the WBC itself one of the biggest fags?

Finland isn't really a part of Scandinavia anyway. It seems to me, that when something tragic happens, it's actually a PROOF that the place has been an active ***-enabler and thus God punished it.

If God hates fags so much, why doesn't he just kill them all with a thought, or perhaps make it so that fagdom just disappears? What's the point of not taking care of something you hate, since you just could do it with no effort required.

[Chemical Ollie]

Two 17-yo boys in Sweden have been arrested today, for making death threats to their headmaster along with making references to the shootings in Finland and Columbine.

Making death threaths could give jail if serious, but I doubt that so young kids will be held for more than a few days.

[Zoid]

Apparently Finland is third in gun ownership after USA and Yemen. 56% of Finns own a gun and/or a rifle. In Sweden it's only 31%

http://www.smallarmssurvey.org/files/sas/publications/year_b_pdf/2007/2007SAS_English_press_kit/2007SASCh2_summary_en.pdf

[DinoDoc]

They have a hostile enemy right next door. Why wouldn't it be?

[Zoid]

Because Finns aren't ignorant xenophobics with delusions of grandeur?

[DinoDoc]

What does that have to do with the situation of being right next to a powerful and hostile country? You might as well as why they have conscription as well.

[BeBMan]

Which is the powerful and hostile neighbour of the US - Canada?

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by BeBro
Which is the powerful and hostile neighbour of the US - Canada?

For us, it's a mix of factors. From the frontier past to the drug war of today.

[Cort Haus]

In a way this guys attitude was just reflecting the deeply misanthropic views of contemporary society as a whole.

The slogan on his T-shirt ‘Humanity is Overrated’ was from an acclaimed US TV series, and the idea that people are a problem is prominent in both green-thinking, and in the authoritarian impulses of both left and right.

[DinoDoc]

Dr. House can't be blamed for this.

[Pekka]

Cort Haus, word.

[BlackCat]

If he had waited a couple of days, he could have joined NFP http://www.nihilistisk-folkeparti.dk/ - they want the same though they try to do it through beers and cigarettes.

[Dr Strangelove]

Any information on the victims? Did he choose his victims, and if so, do we know why?

[Pekka]

One thing amazes me though. People in general don't seem to remember or understand, that this doesn't make this country any more dangerous. As in it never was any safer than other western countries. Pretty safe, but there's a person getting killed almost daily. It's the same rate as in NYC when compare to per capita, except we don't have gang violence. That, plus it's MUCH more likely to get attacked in here, more like a beating or stabbing, but if you go with pure odds, you're a lot ****ing safer in many other countries, so I don't know why people think they live in the safest country there is. It's like this propaganda that is being fed, others know though, ask Swedes. You think we got the stereotype by accident? No. There's lots of bad behaviour in here, especially by drunk *******s.

It's still safe, but in relative terms. Like someone just got shot in the head, I guess he was executed. Is that worrying? No, because it didn't happen in a school. There's some sick **** happening, just like it happens everywhere, but it usually doesn't get to the front page. I remember reading about these poor old people who got robbed in their houses violently. There was this poor old man, who got tied up in his bed, and the sick ****s tortured him with fire, shoved a broken glass up his ass and so forth. Just randomly, for no apparent reason. And it isn't even the same case as in this week some old fellow, with disabiltiies, got tied up in bed and robbed. It's different stories.

The violence with the underground is rarely reported as well, I remember when in the local "cops" type of show a list ran in the screen about drug violence, it was sick ****, those weren't on papers either, it was like some dude was blown up or he blew himself up, someone got attacked by an axe, someone was tortured and shot and so forth. It's like sure, you can think nothing ever happens here but the odds are you're going to get attacked here than outside the borders. Besides, the myth is even better because almost everyone says "I've travelled a lot and been in some weird places but this is the only country I've actually been afraid in". Goes for me as well.

Still, relatively safe but don't tell me any BS that how can this happen. It happens but in smaller scale all the time. The difference is, these violent *******s don't have to go to jail or they get out very fast, because BOOHOO it was the society that drove them to do it.

People don't even know if you would ask them, that Helsinki was Europe's (or EU's) the winner of murders in capital cities just few years back. You can ask just about any Finn adn they don't even know it. But they'd be ready to bet out that it was the last, or at least very close to last. No. It was #1.

People also don't know that for example Helsinki is the #1 in surveillance just after London. They know London, but they don't know Helsinki is right after, and that after that there's a loooooooong list of empty space until the third one. It came as a surprise that the per capita gun ownership is #3, after US and ... Saudi Arabia or something. It isn't a surprise to peopel who read and remember the stuff they read. However, 99.9%, it came as a surprise. I bet after few months they still don't remember, because we don't have a memory. The welfare state wants to tell you, that it is the only place that can protect you. It is the safest place, because it takes care of people and that social equality exists, unlike these other POS countries that don't even pay taxes, they just kick the poor in the stomach. Right....

I'm not even saying it's worse than elsewhere. It's just the same thing. Pretty good, but not like most people think it is. THere's no blaming US now, or how this can only happen in America, where people are insane because they just are and it's in their genes. No. It's in our genes as well, or wait, maybe it isnt' a gene thing, maybe it just happens because oh well, people go insane sometimes and there's not much you can do, except hopefully catch them and get them treatment if they show psychotic signs.

THe media fails on all counts with this oen again. They have experts saying "video games are bad for you", "internet is bad for you". They DON'T say that maybe the whole media thing is also attractive to these killers, they prepare media packages, they are aware of the media, very much so. So when you guys make this whole thing like a long porn movie, well they are counting on it. YOu are making them legends. Another thing is that no one is asking the question if we should actually increase the funding on mental problem thingies and hospitals and whatnot instead of kicking people out because can't afford to keep them. HMMmmm, NOoo, gotta blame the GTA and the Metallica. Seems way more plausable to me. It's those long haired fags that are causing all the ruckus. They didn't have long hair when I was their age, we woudl have beaten the **** out of fags like that, so now they get aftraid and buy guns and kill people because they're cowards, unlike in my days, we used to drink beer and make out with girls, now they just do gay sex and hardcore porn and hang around with the computers all the time no wonder everything is screwed up because the values are now gone, the values like... Uhmmm... MHemhmemhe... pay your taxes... go to work.. hemmh... beat your wife and get wasted.