What do girls look for in a man.

[LordShiva]

Wiglaf is right

Saying that women are looking for someone to ensure that they can propagate their genes is an oversimplified high school evolution class argument. Human beings are much more complex that single-minded gene-carriers. Many of the factors that women probably do look for are compatible with that argument, which makes it more attractive, but that's not the same thing as saying they look for those factors because of that argument.

[Wezil]

It changes from a finacial security issue to one of appearances. It's not so much that the successful woman needs to be picked up in a fine car and treated lavishly but more of a case where she needs to tell her friends about being picked up in a fine car...

"Successful" woman doesn't want to be known to be with an "unsuccessful" man.

[Flubber]

Originally posted by Wezil
I have to disagree as well Flubber. I think it is even more important for women who are themselves financially secure.

I guess we will disagree then. I find that if a woman sees herself attaining a fairly low income , she might want a man to "provide" for her.

I believe that most professional women reject the idea of being provided for. However that does not mean that they want to provide for the man or want to marry a lazyass. They would likely want someone that they view as hardworking like themselves .. .

That and finding men with similar levels of education will often mean the guy has a similar income level .

[Spec]

Originally posted by LordShiva
Wiglaf is right

Saying that women are looking for someone to ensure that they can propagate their genes is an oversimplified high school evolution class argument. Human beings are much more complex that single-minded gene-carriers. Many of the factors that women probably do look for are compatible with that argument, which makes it more attractive, but that's not the same thing as saying they look for those factors because of that argument.

Wtf LS? Didn't you read the thread? What charms her about you is what makes you get her, may it be sense of humor, intelligence or whatever. What makes you keep her is security.

Spec.

[LordShiva]

Originally posted by Wezil
"Successful" woman doesn't want to be known to be with an "unsuccessful" man.

Agreed. Successful women are capable of providing for their offspring and for providing for their own security. Obviously, then, the reason for not wanting to be with an unsuccessful man is much more complicated. Trying to explain it entirely with biology, and not considering things like sociology, psychology, etc., is stupid.

[Arrian]

Being funny helps, btw.

I don't claim to have the answer to the great question or anything (hell, my wife pursued me for reasons I'm not entirely sure I understand), but this is oversimplified. It has to be, if you want to discuss what all women want, given that there are ~3 billion of them...

-Arrian

[LordShiva]

Originally posted by Spec
Wtf LS? Didn't you read the thread? What charms her about you is what makes you get her, may it be sense of humor, intelligence or whatever. What makes you keep her is security.

How can you dismiss Wiglaf's argument based on his being single, when you then make generalisations for "90% of women" when you certainly haven't been in relationships with all of them?

[Wezil]

Arrian - I'm speaking in general. Of course pleasant exceptions occur.

[Flubber]

Originally posted by Wezil


"Successful" woman doesn't want to be known to be with an "unsuccessful" man.

THat I can agree with-- So even "high school teacher" might be an acceptable occupation for the man even if the woman makes twice or 10 times what their partner makes. Anything that sounds successful/worthwhile will probably do fine since the woman makes enough moola to not really worry about paying the bills

[Flubber]

Originally posted by LordShiva


Trying to explain it entirely with biology, and not considering things like sociology, psychology, etc., is stupid.

I didn't yet see where spec tried to do that. It could be part II.

I still take it as as pretty obvious that some large % of women would seek "security" when you define it so broadly that it includes pretty much everything except looks and smoking hot sex ( and spec covers that by saying thats how you get them in the first place)

[Spec]

Originally posted by LordShiva


How can you dismiss Wiglaf's argument based on his being single, when you then make generalisations for "90% of women" when you certainly haven't been in relationships with all of them?

I'm sorry, but you're being ridiculous.

Spec.

[Arrian]

Originally posted by Wezil
Arrian - I'm speaking in general. Of course pleasant exceptions occur.

Flubber has a point, though, Wezil, when he brings up things like similar education and whatnot.

My wife had a boyfriend briefly who was totally gaga for her. She couldn't see herself with him long term because, basically, he was nowhere near as intelligent or educated as she was. Now, does that boil down to financial security, or does it simply mean that conversations might be a tad dull over the years?

My wife and I are similar in intelligence and education (though we differ on how we apply those things ), and that goes a long way.

-Arrian

[VetLegion]

It would rock if we could get some actual females to respond here. And I mean real ones folks, leave the skirts in the closets

Apolyton should "twin" with some female forum, like they have "twin cities" or "sister cities". Then members of this forum could provide girls with valuable insights into manly things and vice versa.

[LordShiva]

Originally posted by Flubber
I still take it as as pretty obvious that some large % of women would seek "security" when you define it so broadly that it includes pretty much everything except looks and smoking hot sex

Exactly. Which makes it a pretty unhelpful definition.

[Wezil]

Arrian, Flubber -

While I understand the point it is one of those "goes without saying" sort of things. Intelligence and education will tend to skew to a larger income. Intelligent, educated and unemployed will not get you too far with a sucessful woman.

If we keep going down this road we will reach a point where we need to define rich vs poor, successful vs unsuccessful, etc.