Man shalt not dictate to God

[Blake]

Originally posted by Lorizael
It's quite possible that when I use these tools to their fullest extent, I may discover that girls and cars are the end all be all of life and that I should be passionate about them, but I don't know that yet. And I won't know that until I'm done thinking.

You wont be done thinking until you start feeling instead / as well.

Some things can't be thunk about effectually. You basically just go in big circles of circular logic where ultimately every idea depends on some other idea...

So, if thinking is not producing results*, just go with what you feel is right and be done with it, it's like a million times faster and generates more useful results :P.


* When thinking wont produce useful results, it's probably an ambiguous or irrelevant issue anyway. So ignore books and logic, and feeeeeel....

[Berzerker]

an atheistic old woman explained her position thusly: if you get hit in the head and you're knocked unconscious, you dont know what happened. Get hit in the head even harder and suddenly you know the mysteries of the universe as God gives you a tour of creation.

[Lorizael]

Originally posted by Blake
You wont be done thinking until you start feeling instead / as well.

Some things can't be thunk about effectually. You basically just go in big circles of circular logic where ultimately every idea depends on some other idea...

So, if thinking is not producing results*, just go with what you feel is right and be done with it, it's like a million times faster and generates more useful results :P.


* When thinking wont produce useful results, it's probably an ambiguous or irrelevant issue anyway. So ignore books and logic, and feeeeeel....

Seriously, do you actually think this is going to convince me of anything? If I've been thinking this way for nearly twenty two years, am I going read these few paragraphs and go, "Oh! So that's why my life is so terrible. I think too much. It all makes sense now. I just have to feel everything."

[darrelljs]

Originally posted by Zkribbler
God does not exist: God = 0 (or 0/0)

0/0 does not equal 0.

Darrell

[Blake]

Originally posted by Lorizael


Seriously, do you actually think this is going to convince me of anything? If I've been thinking this way for nearly twenty two years, am I going read these few paragraphs and go, "Oh! So that's why my life is so terrible. I think too much. It all makes sense now. I just have to feel everything."

I thought that way for nearly twenty four years.

Pwned .

[Blake]

And no. You don't feel everything. You just admit to yourself when it's not something which can be thunk about, or when thunking wont produce meaningful useful results.

I wasted WAAAAY too much brainpower on things like nihilism, completely pointless.

[Lorizael]

Originally posted by Blake
I thought that way for nearly twenty four years.

Pwned .

Yeah, but was it some random stranger on the internet tossing off casual remarks that brought about the change? Methinks not.

[Blake]

Originally posted by Lorizael
Yeah, but was it some random stranger on the internet tossing off casual remarks that brought about the change? Methinks not.

Yes, except for the random part. It was a wise stranger on the internet tossing off casual remarks ^^

[Lorizael]

I'm afraid you may not be as wise as the stranger, then. Sorry.

[Blake]

Technically, what I saw was this:

Someone who dared to say wise things. And I wondered how that worked, most people wouldn't dare, they'd think they'd be perceived as pretentious, or they'd doubt themselves too much - EVEN though, what they say rings so true and definitely needs to be said.

It wasn't that she was so wise - it was that she dared to use the sense she had.

And that made me realize there was another way of thinking, one I didn't have (anymore), but she did have (still). And so, I figured out what that was for myself.

I'll give you a hint.

Thinking is immensely useful. But by the age of 15, I'd learned everything there was to know about useful thinking. Developing my "thinking" ability beyond that time, did not help me one bit, it only made me more confused.
There's basically an optimal level of thinking - if you think too little, you'll be ignorant. If you think too much, you'll lose clarity - because you try to bring EVERY issue into account, not just the IMPORTANT ones.
So I just remembered how I used to think when I still had clarity (for me, the age of about 15) and started thinking that way again. The results have certainly been all-positive. I've even managed to answer all the important questions like "The Meaning of Life" and stuff :P.

I mean it may not work that way for you. I was absolutely brilliant when I was 15. And I'm absolutely brilliant now (points to the left), but I wasn't brilliant when I was like 20...

[Lorizael]

One of the benefits of thinking too much is that I've already had the conversation we're having right now with myself a thousand times before. If words were going to change me, they would have done so long ago.

[Blake]

That's not one of the benefits

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Lorizael
One of the benefits of thinking too much is that I've already had the conversation we're having right now with myself a thousand times before. If words were going to change me, they would have done so long ago.

Do you know how close minded that is?

[Lorizael]

Originally posted by Blake
That's not one of the benefits

Sure it is. It means I never have moments like...

Someone who dared to say wise things. And I wondered how that worked, most people wouldn't dare, they'd think they'd be perceived as pretentious, or they'd doubt themselves too much - EVEN though, what they say rings so true and definitely needs to be said.

...because nothing other people do ever surprises me; I've already thought of it.

[Lorizael]

Originally posted by Kidicious
Do you know how close minded that is?

It's not close-minded at all. It's a realistic appraisal of my own abilities. I will thoroughly and rationally consider any point of view expressed, but I won't change. I won't change not because I'm close-minded, but because I have severe psychological problems that are completely unrelated to my ability to reason.