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Originally posted by Heraclitus
The death penalty is barbaric
That is fine, there are not a lot of Greek speakers in the countries that have it.
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Death Penalty is barbaric, but necessary. We do not need evil people behind bars because they can still be an evil influence affecting society for evil. All evil people need to be given the final barbaric solution so evil is limited in its spread.
The death penalty is just, it is the victims of those recieving the penalty that have recieved the injustice. The barbarism is not in the sentence, but the crime. Those who commit the crime choose the judgement of their piers. If that judgement is death, so be it.
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There hasn't been an execution in Slovenia since the 50's and we don't seem to have lots of evil influence... You Americans are too moral and not ethical enough. For in the end only ethic are of relevance...
Last edited by Heraclitus; October 14, 2007, 07:28.
Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila
What do you mean? If it weren't supported in countries where it is enacted and it's a democracy, most likely it will be abolished.
Ehh, what do you mean?
Many of those country's are not democratic. And democratic countries that have abolished the DP many times did not do so because of popular demand, but because of external pressure. And now the populous is against the DP:
MY thesis is that DP is not a classical political issue, because in those you have:
Majority opinion THEN political capital for change THEN law
but here we have
political capital THEN law THEN majority opinion
I'm weak with sociological lingo in English but I hope I get my point through.
Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila
Originally posted by Lefty Scaevola
That is fine, there are not a lot of Greek speakers in the countries that have it.
Yes, but it is our duty to civilize or exterminate them for their own good...
Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila
Why keep someone in jail until he dies while we pay for it? Be done with it already and kill the bltches. Thank you.
I am not dicussing if the sentence is appropriate for the crime, I am saying that if the sentence is life, then what would be the purpose of keeping the guy alive?
Hell, if I got a life sentence, I'd rather they killed my ass than to get it pounded forever. But thats just me
Hell, if I got a life sentence, I'd rather they killed my ass than to get it pounded forever. But thats just me
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Me too. So long as I didn't have to wear Darius' Explodo-Helmet.
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We have a moratorium on DP in Russia so they'd let us in the Council of Europe, but 80% of the populace, including me, are pro-DP.
If executing innocents is what you're afraid of, stricter and more reliable judicial processes can be used to ensure that only those not worthy to live will be executed.
If you murder someone or commit a mansalughter while committing another crime, you sign your own death warrant by this. It's simple as that.
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If executing innocents is what you're afraid of, stricter and more reliable judicial processes can be used to ensure that only those not worthy to live will be executed.
The problem being, the only system that is 100% foolproof would need to be so restrictive on evidence/qualifiers that the DP would clearly lose any deterence effect it may have (I realise dp as deterence is arguable in any event). So few would meet the criteria.
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