The death penalty is barbaric

[Heraclitus]

Originally posted by Patroklos


Oh you sly fox you...

Ehh, no. I'm serious. What videos are you talking about?

[Wezil]

Originally posted by Arrian


There is also the group that believes that using the DP would be acceptable if it weren't for the fallibility of our justice system. It follows that the chance of killing an innocent, even if the chance is low, outweights whatever utility the DP may have.

That's my feeling. I prefer "life" to mean life.

[The diplomat]

What's more barbaric is a person who guns down children in a school or kidnaps and rapes a little girl and then burns her body. The death penalty is fair: if you commit such horrific acts then you lose the right to live.

[Traianvs]

Now the question is why is the DP supported in countries where it is enacted and shunned in countries where it is not?

What do you mean? If it weren't supported in countries where it is enacted and it's a democracy, most likely it will be abolished.

[Sirotnikov]

Originally posted by The diplomat
What's more barbaric is a person who guns down children in a school or kidnaps and rapes a little girl and then burns her body. The death penalty is fair: if you commit such horrific acts then you lose the right to live.

QFT

[Shrapnel12]

Originally posted by Arrian


There is also the group that believes that using the DP would be acceptable if it weren't for the fallibility of our justice system. It follows that the chance of killing an innocent, even if the chance is low, outweights whatever utility the DP may have.

I guess it's been a while since we had a DP thread, eh?

-Arrian

I personally could care less when a hardened criminal buys it, but I think that the injustice created by the DP far outweighs any need to see these bastards burn in hell. I can't remember the person who said it, but a quote that goes through my mind a lot when considering our justice system is, "It is better for 100 guilty men to go free then for 1 innocent to be wrongfully imprisoned." Ok, not sure if that's the exact quote, but I extend it to the death penalty. I believe it is better for no guilty person to be executed at all then for one innocent to be executed. Life in prison is punishment enough, and then when they do die, they have an eternity to burn in hell.

[Lazerus]

I dislike paying taxes to feed people who are sitting in a cage for 50 years because they can't be trusted outside. Lifers serve no purpose so kill them.

[Wezil]

Life with no possibility of parole is a damn serious sentence. It's not like their getting away with anything.

[Lazerus]

I doubt the majority sit in a cell crying every night once the initial shock has passed.

[Zkribbler]

Originally posted by Lazerus
I dislike paying taxes to feed people who are sitting in a cage for 50 years because they can't be trusted outside. Lifers serve no purpose so kill them.

What if they can afford to send out for pizza, etc, so you don't have to buy them dinner. Would you still want to kill them?

[Slade Wilson]

Originally posted by Wezil
Life with no possibility of parole is a damn serious sentence. It's not like their getting away with anything.

They cost money, aswell they could very well perpetuate more crimes against other inmates. If something is so bad that it deserves life, then it probably should be death instead. However there should be more stringent measures to make sure the defendant has every defense against being railroaded.

Im not sure anyone actually believes the death penalty deters anyone-but anyone that murders demonstrates how they value life and should be held to the same standard

[Zkribbler]

Originally posted by Lazerus
I doubt the majority sit in a cell crying every night once the initial shock has passed.

I don't know if you saw the epside of My Life on the D-List, when Kathy Griffin visited a woman's prison. In one part, she met with a prisoner on Death Row. Griffin was surprised (as was I) on how charming and chipper the prisoner was. (She was convicted of murdering her husband.)

[Lazerus]

What if they can afford to send out for pizza, etc, so you don't have to buy them dinner. Would you still want to kill them?

Yes, if they're serving life in jail then all their assets should be stripped from them, no buying your way out of my courts.

I don't know if you saw the epside of My Life on the D-List, when Kathy Griffin visited a woman's prison. In one part, she met with a prisoner on Death Row. Griffin was surprised (as was I) on how charming and chipper the prisoner was. (She was convicted of murdering her husband.)

Nope, but what's the point ? Did the show document the 99 others who weren't charming ?

[Wezil]

Originally posted by Slade Wilson


They cost money, aswell they could very well perpetuate more crimes against other inmates.

Yes, I concede these are issues if there is no dp. Quite frankly I'd continue restricting liberty for bad behaviour down to lifetime confinement in solitary if need be.

If something is so bad that it deserves life, then it probably should be death instead. However there should be more stringent measures to make sure the defendant has every defense against being railroaded.

I agree in theory however there is no legal system designed by man that has enough "stringent measures" to prevent someone from being screwed. It's just not worth taking the chance. It's all fine to say "Well almost every execution was just" What if you were the one wrongly condemned?

Im not sure anyone actually believes the death penalty deters anyone-but anyone that murders demonstrates how they value life and should be held to the same standard

I've no sympathy for murderers. My concern is for the innocents.

[Berzerker]

Heraclitus

blasphemy or pornographic?