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  • #16
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    Turkey recalls ambassador to US

    Ankara is recalling its ambassador to Washington for consultations amid anger at a bill in Congress recognising the mass killing of Armenians as genocide.

    The passing of the bill by a House committee on Wednesday despite appeals by the Bush administration was denounced by President Abdullah Gul.

    Turkey accepts there were mass killings in 1915-17 but denies genocide.

    Turkey's foreign ministry said the ambassador would return to Turkey for a stay of "a week or 10 days".

    "We are not withdrawing our ambassador," said ministry spokesman Levent Bilman.

    "We have asked him to come to Turkey for some consultations."

    US President George W Bush had argued against the bill, saying its passage would do "great harm" to relations with "a key ally in Nato and in the global war on terror".

    Turkey is a regional operational hub for the US military, and some suggest access to Incirlik airbase or other supply lines crucial to US forces in Iraq and Afghanistan, could be affected by the row.

    The US also fears Turkey may make a military incursion into northern Iraq to neutralise Kurdish separatist guerrillas there, who continue to cross the border to ambush Turkish troops.

    The non-binding vote, passed by 27 to 21 votes by members of the congressional House Foreign Affairs Committee, is the first step towards holding a vote in the House of Representatives.

    It was welcomed by Armenian President Robert Kocharyan who said he hoped for "full [US] recognition... of the genocide".
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    • #17


      There you go.


      As to the issue - The US is in a tight spot. Relations with Turkey vs. desire to speak the truth. I can see why Bush feels the way he does. Truth means nothing to him.
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      • #18
        I see 2 absurdities here:
        1) A parliament having a vote over what to call a historical event 80 years ago on another continent. Isn't that something for academics?
        2) Turkey being upset about about recognising historical events that took place in a very different world, and hopefully a very different Turkey. Their anger reveals them as still being bad guys. Forget EU membership...
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        • #19
          Originally posted by Chemical Ollie
          I see 2 absurdities here:
          1) A parliament having a vote over what to call a historical event 80 years ago on another continent. Isn't that something for academics?
          2) Turkey being upset about about recognising historical events that took place in a very different world, and hopefully a very different Turkey. Their anger reveals them as still being bad guys. Forget EU membership...
          1) There are Americans of Armenian descent and recognition of this as a "genocide" carries legal implications (discussed earlier in the thread).
          2) Agreed.
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          • #20
            Perhaps, beyond vote getting, this is a very sly way for a democratic house to make pursuing the war in Iraq even harder?

            Or am I giving them too much credit?
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            • #21
              Originally posted by Ninot
              Or am I giving them too much credit?
              Too much credit. This is mere vote pandering...there's more Armenians in the U.S. than Turks.

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              • #22
                Congress=Stupid

                This is ridiculous that the Congress would even consider a measure about something this long ago when having Turkey as an ally is so obvilously important in that part of the world.

                Do they realize they are trying to alienate not only a NATO ally but also one of the very, very few secular muslim democracies?
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by PLATO
                  Congress=Stupid

                  This is ridiculous that the Congress would even consider a measure about something this long ago when having Turkey as an ally is so obvilously important in that part of the world.

                  Do they realize they are trying to alienate not only a NATO ally but also one of the very, very few secular muslim democracies?
                  Do you favour kissing China's butt over their revisionism as well or is it just Turkish butt that needs to be kissed?
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                  • #24
                    The problem with Chinese revisionism is that it lets them do the same things all over again. Turkey's improved since 1922.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Kuciwalker
                      The problem with Chinese revisionism is that it lets them do the same things all over again. Turkey's improved since 1922.
                      Then why are they b1tching about it?
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                      • #26
                        They might have improved, but they still have the kurdish question.
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Chemical Ollie
                          Then why are they b1tching about it?
                          What?

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Kuciwalker
                            The problem with Chinese revisionism is that it lets them do the same things all over again. Turkey's improved since 1922.
                            yeah i mean they are only occupating half of cyprus (sorry 40%) for the last 33 years and is not ready to officially invade iraq (unofficially it has already done it)....
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Wezil
                              Do you favour kissing China's butt over their revisionism as well or is it just Turkish butt that needs to be kissed?
                              I don't really care about Japanese textbooks if that is what your asking. I'm mainly in favor of not taking meaningless actions that piss off useful allies.
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                              • #30
                                Turkey has denied a report that it has launched a major incursion into northern Iraq to hunt down Kurdish rebels.

                                A military source said a "limited operation" was taking place.

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