The "surge" is a success?

[Patroklos]

Well, you should read them, just know how to read between the lines (for both right and left leaning sources).

For two out of the last four years of my life the only consistant real media source I had available to me was a daily abbreviated NY Times publication sent to US ships via official email. It consisted of three pages of stories, one page or sports, and one of opinion pieces.

After all that, does it seem like I regurgitate the NY Times liberal line? No, I just gleaned the facts from the stories and ignored the spin (and more importantly exaggeration, the curse of media of all flavors).

[Arrian]

This is because the media has so manipulated our perceptions of the war, that they can't be trusted.

Know nothing

All those librul reporters are just making it all up. But we can trust in Bush! And right-wing media That media is ok. Lefty media is bad, though.

Patroklos speaks truth (in post 106, anyway ).

-Arrian

[Patroklos]

Patroklos speaks truth (in post 106, anyway ).

Damn, I must have messed that one up...

[Arrian]

Meanie.

-Arrian

[Patroklos]

[Arrian]

I'd like to know, Shrapnel, what you think people should base their opinions on.

White House press releases?

-Arrian

[MRT144]

the surge is so succesful that we will be there till 2009. Yay!

[Patroklos]

I'd like to know, Shrapnel, what you think people should base their opinions on.

The Apolyton Off Topic of course, where else?

[Shrapnel12]

Originally posted by Arrian


Know nothing

All those librul reporters are just making it all up. But we can trust in Bush! And right-wing media That media is ok. Lefty media is bad, though.

Patroklos speaks truth (in post 106, anyway ).

-Arrian

I said media. I didn't specify liberal or conservative. They're all guilty. As for what I think we should base our opinions on, that's a difficult question. The media isn't 100% false, so I would suggest merely not accepting everything they say and use your best judgement to figure out what is true and what is biased. I would suggest we require the media to leave their agendas out of the news and finally I would suggest people stop shooting their mouths off on this forum as if they are the definitive authority on what is really going on in the world. I submit that we don't know half of what is really going on in Iraq and instead of arguing about assumptiong, maybe we should compare notes and see if we can find out what those who control our information don't want us to know.

[germanos]

After four and a half year it's now official:

The invasion of Iraq could lead to another Vietnam



The question now probably is: where will the next Cambodia be: Iran or Syria?

[PLATO]

Originally posted by Shrapnel12


I said media. I didn't specify liberal or conservative. They're all guilty. As for what I think we should base our opinions on, that's a difficult question. The media isn't 100% false, so I would suggest merely not accepting everything they say and use your best judgement to figure out what is true and what is biased. I would suggest we require the media to leave their agendas out of the news and finally I would suggest people stop shooting their mouths off on this forum as if they are the definitive authority on what is really going on in the world. I submit that we don't know half of what is really going on in Iraq and instead of arguing about assumptiong, maybe we should compare notes and see if we can find out what those who control our information don't want us to know.

Last I knew, nobody was forcing anybody to read this thread. Maybe you should just stop if you don't like what is being said or how it is being said.

Personally, I find the opinions of Ramo to be well supported and well thought out. I just happen to disagree with them and feel that I have good reason to.

The free discussion of ideas among the various citizens of the world isone of the things that helps bring everyone to understanding. Last I knew, there was no prerequisite of perfect knowledge required to be able to discuss one's opinion.

You are, of course, free to want people to "stop shooting their mouths off" and free to quit reading it...just as we are free to keep expressing our opinions based upon what we do know and what we think it all means.

[PLATO]

Originally posted by germanos
After four and a half year it's now official:

The invasion of Iraq could lead to another Vietnam



The question now probably is: where will the next Cambodia be: Iran or Syria?

Syria will be Cambodia and Iran will be Laos.

It always seems to be three...

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by germanos
After four and a half year it's now official:

The invasion of Iraq could lead to another Vietnam

Can you imagine the shocked look on PM Nguyễn Tấn Dzũng when the American military invades again because of Iraq?

[germanos]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
Can you imagine the shocked look on PM Nguyễn Tấn Dzũng when the American military invades again because of Iraq?

Clever boy

or maybe not

[Hueij]

Maybe I should save this thread and in a year or so start a thread with quotes from it...