The Canadian Crippler Kills His Family

[Az]

no matter what one's opinion of wrestling might be ( I actually find it to be pretty cool ), everyone can understand the tragedy of this story.

[Dr Strangelove]

Do you get to see WWF type wrestling in Israel? I thought that it was pretty much just an American phenomenon. WWF wrestling is more theatrics than wrestling. WWF wrestlers make great stunt men. Some day I'd like to see how they would do against real wrestlers in matches under real rules.

The thing is that there are still people out there who are in denial. The haven't come to grips with the fact that this man killed his family with his own hands before committing suicide. I don't think there is any question as to what happened.

[Pekka]

It's on TV pretty much globally. But it's an American phenomenon.

I think some of them might match up in wrestling pretty well, since many of them have very strong wrestling backgrounds, as in they have great records. And many of them are real athletes, no question.

But still pretty meh...

[Pekka]

What I mean is, it's a tough business and I think these orgs are driving these guys into premature death. Those schedules, I mean it's just inhumane. Their hearts explode at 40 usually anyway from all the steroid use, all the painkillers and it's just, and this is my opinion, irresponsible for the organizations to push such tight schedules. They should make fewer events so their athletes can recover and have healthier lifestyle. Should be high in the priority list, but somehow it isn't.

[Az]

we actually had American wrestling "leagues" shown here in syndication. We all loved guys like The Undertaker, Bret Hart, etc.

We also have some local upstarts, but they are usually simply hillariously bad ( the best kind of bad there is. )

Even though it's clearly theatre, it's a fun soap for guys.

[ZEE]

Originally posted by Pekka
What I mean is, it's a tough business and I think these orgs are driving these guys into premature death. Those schedules, I mean it's just inhumane. Their hearts explode at 40 usually anyway from all the steroid use, all the painkillers and it's just, and this is my opinion, irresponsible for the organizations to push such tight schedules. They should make fewer events so their athletes can recover and have healthier lifestyle. Should be high in the priority list, but somehow it isn't.

QFT

[Sprayber]

There is some things going around that Benoit's son had something called Fragile X Syndrome and that him and his wife have had problems before but nothing really to suggest any of this was a reason for what he did. There was obviously a lot going on the house that most didn't know about. Benoit had a reputation as one of the few straightforward guys in the wrestling business at least up until the last few years when I stopped paying attention to it. Not that I'm a doctor or any expert on roids but he does seem a lot bigger and bulked up then he used to be but that may just be time playing a trick.

[bipolarbear]

I'd be kind of surprised if he didn't juice. He seemed to really bulk up once he hit the WWE.

[Dinner]

They've had tapes of that ******** owner of the WWE telling people to take steroids if they want to get on the WWE show.

[bipolarbear]

Well, Vince isn't a complete idiot (he did iirc push the concept of pay-per-view through before it existed), but saying anything like that on camera is hardly a smart move.

Wrestling is sort of like porn in many respects, bad acting, cheap stories (if any), and it's all larger than life if you know what I mean. There have been exceptions (Spike Dudley), but by and large people go there to see something outside othe realm of reality, it's like a circus. Vince and the WWE have a love affair with titanic behemoths (though isn't the case for all of pro wrestling), and as such size becomes very important.

A wrestler juicing is sort of like a porn star having boob implants; it's semi-mandatory. It's not that you can't make it without them, but it's a lot harder and you probably won't be as successful if you don't. At least that's my take on it.

[Ben Kenobi]

I saw an article earlier today stating that anabolic steroids were found in his home, so it's a safe bet he was using them. Initial reports said that the wife and son died well before he did, so it's possible that he came down and began to feel remorseful. Contemplating his own suicide, the placement of Bibles beside their bodies may have occurred sometime after their deaths and might have been his way of participating in putting them to rest knowing that he would not be alive to attend their funerals once he made up his mind to hang himself.

It's totally messed up.

Took him a day to kill his son, and a day later to commit suicide? I'm not sure it's so simple as to blame the steriods. That seems premediated to me.

[Pekka]

Yeah, I wouldn't go saying it has got to be roid rage. It's possible, but not certain.

It's as if they found cocaine in his house and well, he was a druggie, must have killed them in drug crazed situation. Of course these are different things, but the argument still holds true.

I'd say better wait to see what the investigators say. It's possible it was roid rage, but not necessarily so. Anyway, I find peopel who wipe their families somewhat disgusting, it's like people who commit suicide by driving against someone on a freeway. You know, if you have problems and you want to die, why bring other people with you like that? Crazy people

And it's just like booze, no one is forcing you to drink or juice up. If you are having roid rages, maybe that's a sign to stop, change the profession or something. It is irresponsible to know that you might flip out and do violence even in your own home because of something you do on purpose. SO screw the Crippler, you people can have all the sympathy for him, I have the same sympathy for drunk drivers killing others, that is absolutely none. Real victims are the ones who had nothing to do with the killer, in this case it's his family. It would be a different tone if someone on crack killed his own son when he was messed up. I don't really see the difference here.