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    This is the funniest news article I've read in a long time.

    A conservative's answer to Wikipedia
    Seeing a liberal bias on the popular online encyclopedia, a teacher launches Conservapedia -- to give a different angle on the facts, he says.

    By Stephanie Simon, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer


    Andy Schlafly was appalled. He was teaching a history class to home-schooled teens and one student had just turned in an assignment that dated events as "BCE," before the common era — rather than "BC," before Christ.

    "Where did that come from?" he demanded.

    Her answer: "Wikipedia."

    At that, Schlafly knew he had to act. In his mind, the popular online encyclopedia — written and edited by self-appointed experts worldwide — was riddled with liberal bias. Dating events without referring to the New Testament was just one example. How about Wikipedia's entry on golfer Zach Johnson, winner of the 2007 Masters? Not a single word about how Johnson gave credit for his win to Jesus Christ.

    Thus was born Conservapedia.com — labeled "a conservative encyclopedia you can trust."

    Schlafly, 46, started small, urging his students to post brief — often one-sentence — entries on ancient history. He went live with the site in November. In the last six months, it's grown explosively, offering what Schlafly describes as fair, scholarly articles. Many have a distinctly religious-right perspective.

    Take the Pleistocene Epoch. Most scientists know it as the ice age and date it back at least 1.6 million years. But Conservapedia calls it "a theorized period of time" — a theory contradicted, according to the entry, by "multiple lines of evidence" indicating that the Earth is less than 10,000 years old, as described in the Book of Genesis.

    "We have certain principles that we adhere to, and we are up-front about them," Schlafly writes in his mission statement. "Beyond that we welcome the facts."

    Conservapedia defines environmentalists as "people who profess concern about the environment" and notes that some would want to impose legal limits on the use of toilet paper.

    Femininity? The quality of being "childlike, gentle, pretty, willowy, submissive."

    A hike in minimum wage is referred to as "a controversial manoeuvre that increases the incentive for young people to drop out of school."

    And the state of the economy under President Bush? Much better than the "liberal media" would have you think: "For example, during his term Exxon Mobile has posted the largest profit of any company in a single year, and executive salaries have greatly increased as well."

    With fewer than 12,000 entries and typos galore (the misspelling of Mobil above; the mayor of L.A. is referred to as "Anthony Varigoso"), Conservapedia isn't about to supplant Wikipedia — which boasts 1.8 million articles in English alone.

    But the all-volunteer site has several thousand active readers and writers. Schlafly encourages his students to use it as a reference, saying that the articles are more concise than those on Wikipedia. On the home page, just above the daily Bible verse, he tallies total views: 12.3 million and counting.

    Conservapedia's critics for the most part have no problem with the articles heaping praise on former President Reagan and Margaret Thatcher, former prime minister of Britain. But they worry about material presented as fact in science and medicine entries that typically seek to debunk evolution, condemn homosexuality and raise fears about abortion. They're also concerned that children who stumble onto the site will assume everything in it is authoritative.

    Schlafly says students can always follow the footnotes to get more information, but few links connect to dissenting — or even mainstream — views.

    "The project specifically targets high-schoolers, and that's probably what I find most dangerous," said Andreas Kjeldsen, 27, a Danish graduate student who wrote several entries on medieval history before stopping in protest.

    Many, perhaps most, of Conservapedia's articles are free of ideology. There are brisk, straightforward entries about hundreds of topics: the tuba, Claude Monet, the nation of Latvia, Robin Hood, polygons, the Renaissance.

    But consider the entry on Hillary Diane Rodham Clinton (b. 1947). She "may suffer from a psychological condition that would raise questions about her fitness for office" — namely, "clinical narcissism," Conservapedia asserts. Evidence of her instability includes her "ever-changing opinion of the Iraq war." Though Schlafly demands that entries be rigorously footnoted, these sentences are not.

    Schlafly calls the armchair psychology "borderline in acceptability" for his site, but he defends the Clinton article on balance as "an objective, bias-free piece from a conservative perspective."
    It's giving a view from either a conservative or liberal perspective, by definition, not bias-free?
    Last edited by Zkribbler; June 19, 2007, 17:38.

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    indeed.
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    • #3
      If I'm leaning to the right the tree does look straight.
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      • #4
        I don't mind an online encyclopedia with a right-wing bias. --Just don't say it's unbiased.


        And I've never noticed Wikipedia to be liberal. It that because I am? Or is it because unbiased facts support liberal positions? Or is this guy just plain wrong?

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        • #5
          Neither the founders or the contributers are taking this seriously. The point is not to get people to take Conservapedia seriously, it's to create an image to observers that since there are two "pedias", Wikipedia must have a liberal bias. It's the same logic what FOX News executives had when they formed "Half hour news show" to "compete" with "The Daily Show".

          This works. When you put up a "conservative" source which is filled with incredibly outragous lies and label the source which relies on facts as "liberal", people start thinking that the truth is somewhere in the middle. Witness hard-working upper middle class people like Ming who don't have the time to do comprehensive fact-checking doing their "yeah like CNN isn't biased towards liberals "-routine whenever FOX news is caught from lying shamelessly.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Zkribbler
            And I've never noticed Wikipedia to be liberal. It that because I am? Or is it because unbiased facts support liberal positions? Or is this guy just plain wrong?
            Wikipedia is incredibly biased in many ways, but it's hard to see because its POV essentially mirrors that of its readers (by the design of the site). This becomes especially apparent in an article about a subject that's often debated online - the article reads like crap, because warring editors basically argue with each other in alteranting sentences.

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            • #7
              It's biased towards geekish subjects.

              Knight vs Jedi

              Fiction vs Fan fiction

              Hedgehog vs Sonic the hedgehog

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Sandman
                It's biased towards geekish subjects.
                That too. As evidence I submit the fact that every single Pokemon has its own article (and more than a stub), and the majority of the Final Fantasy games are featured articles.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Zkribbler
                  I don't mind an online encyclopedia with a right-wing bias. --Just don't say it's unbiased.


                  And I've never noticed Wikipedia to be liberal. It that because I am? Or is it because unbiased facts support liberal positions? Or is this guy just plain wrong?
                  unbiased=right-winged
                  biased=left-winged
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                  • #10
                    The real measurement would be Zelda. There should be volumes.
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                    • #11
                      The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask · The Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Seasons and Oracle of Ages · The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker · Link (The Legend of Zelda)

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                      • #12
                        Obligatory "heard about Diana's car crash yet!?" reply.
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                        • #13
                          Oh boy, a history teacher is nutty. That is a shocker.
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                          • #14


                            The gay rights movement seeks to elevate homosexuality to the same level of social and political respectability as heterosexual relationships. It denies or dismisses the Biblical prohibitions against homosexual acts and the proven health risks of gay sex.


                            Wow!


                            Homosexuality is an immoral sexual lifestyle between members of the same sex. It is more than simply a sexual act, it is going beyond the boundaries that God has setup for marriage; one man and one woman.

                            Sexual relations between the same sex is condemned in both Old and New Testaments. It is forbidden directly four times in the Bible.


                            I do like how they state this fact:
                            Studies have long indicated that homosexuals have a substantially greater risk of suffering from a psychiatric problems (suicide, depression, bulimia, antisocial personality disorder, and substance abuse).


                            ...but they don't seem to question why that is. And here's a hint: people like the author who wrote the article.
                            "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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                            • #15
                              At least when the revolution comes. They will be easy to find.
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