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    Blair 'may become a Catholic deacon'

    Visit to Vatican to see the Pope as last trip before quitting No10 'is highly significant'

    Tony Blair has discussed becoming a Roman Catholic deacon when he quits office.

    The revelation comes as he prepares to meet the Pope amid speculation that he will use the audience in the Vatican to announce his conversion.

    In his last foreign engagement, just days before he leaves Downing Street for the final time, the Prime Minister will visit Pope Benedict XVI in what officials say will be a "highly significant" personal mission.

    Reports that he will convert from the Church of England to the Catholic faith of his wife Cherie have often surfaced during Mr Blair's decade in office.

    The claims were supported by revelations that he has already discussed not only converting to Rome, but also taking a formal lay position within the Church.

    Deacons are just below priests in the Catholic hierarchy and have the right to administer certain sacraments and wear a special white robe known as a dalmatic.

    Mr Blair discussed the idea of his taking such a role with Canon Timothy Russ, priest at the Immaculate Heart of Mary near the Prime Minister’s official country residence, Chequers.

    The revelation is contained in a new book soon to be serialised by The Mail on Sunday – The Darlings Of Downing Street by Garry O’Connor.

    The book states: "Tony expressed his strong desire when he stepped down to become a deacon – and a Roman Catholic deacon at that, confirming the often-speculated belief that he would convert to Roman Catholicism sometime in the future."

    Mr Blair is reported as asking his confidant Father Timothy: "Would this be possible?" He was told: "It usually takes two or three years", to which he replied: "The fact that I'm PM, could this make a difference?"

    The deacon idea emerged in a conversation a few years ago about Mr Blair's plans after he leaves office.

    Father Timothy suggested that taking on a formal role in the Church could give him fresh moral clout when he campaigns on climate change and Africa.

    The priest added: "He has a lot of potentiality for good. He is still looking for the meaning in his life."

    The Blairs stopped attending Mass at the Immaculate Heart of Mary last year for "security reasons". The relationship with the priest became strained after he spoke out against the Iraq War, accusing the Prime Minister of moral surrender.

    It is understood that Mr Blair will be accompanied by Cherie at the audience with the Pope in the papal apartments a week on Saturday. The couple are expected to spend the weekend in Rome before returning for their last 72 hours in Downing Street.

    It will be Mr Blair's third visit to the Vatican in four years and a source said: "The fact that he will meet the Holy Father for his last official overseas engagement is highly significant and must raise speculation over his conversion to Catholicism."

    The latest revelations follow recent comments by Father Michael Seed, who provides private Masses for the Blairs in their Downing Street flat.

    The priest, known for bringing high-profile politicians and aristocrats into the Catholic fold, believes Mr Blair is poised to join the Church of Rome.

    Converts are usually welcomed into the Church at the Easter Vigil Mass, held the night before Easter Sunday, but these arrangements are considered flexible.

    Admittance to the Church is normally a two-year process. But Mr Blair, because he is already a regular attender, is likely to be fast- tracked.

    As a deacon, he could help priests administer Mass, preside over baptisms and read the gospel in Church services. Unlike priests, deacons are not required to take a vow of chastity.

    Mr Blair, whose children have been brought up as Catholics, regularly attends Mass at Westminster Cathedral and has become close to the leader of Catholics in England and Wales, Cardinal Cormac Murphy-O'Connor.

    The Prime Minister's first meeting with the present Pope took place last June, but he had an audience with Pope John Paul II in February 2003, shortly before the US and British-led invasion of Iraq.

    It later emerged that the Prime Minister had received Holy Communion from the Polish-born pontiff at a private service for the Blair family in the Vatican.

    Mrs Blair, who is a devout Catholic, had an unexpected meeting with Pope Benedict last year when she was on a speaking engagement in Rome.

    In 1996 Cardinal Basil Hume, the late Archbishop of Westminster, asked that the Prime Minister – a member of the Church of England – cease taking Communion at his wife’s London church in Islington.

    Mr Blair is not believed to have received the sacrament in British Catholic churches since then. However, he is understood to have taken the Eucharist during holidays in Italy where an Anglican church was not easily available.

    Mr Blair has always been reluctant to discuss his religious beliefs. Alastair Campbell, his former Downing Street communications chief, famously told one interviewer: "We don't do God."

    A Downing Street spokesman said: "It is true that the Prime Minister will visit the Vatican. But I am not going to confirm the date. He will discuss various issues with the Pope including inter-faith issues, the Middle East peace process and international development and aid."

    President Bush proved himself less than familiar with Catholic etiquette when, on his way home from the G8 summit in Germany, he stopped for an audience with the Pope in the Vatican.

    First he failed to bow before shaking hands, saying: "It's great to be here."

    Then officials cringed as he repeatedly called the Pontiff 'sir'. Later, a Vatican spokesman said: "I don't think President Bush meant anything by his use of words. The expression "sir" is widely used in English and especially by Americans – but of course the correct term is "Your Holiness"."




    Tony Blair has discussed becoming a Roman Catholic deacon when he quits office. The revelation comes as he prepares to meet the Pope amid speculation that he will use the audience in the Vatican to announce his conversion
    I need a foot massage

  • #2
    Seeing as 'Ayatollah' Blair has been bashing the pulpit for the duration of his political career, this comes as no great surprise.

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    • #3
      Humans are allowed to dual class... that's alright
      Monkey!!!

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      • #4
        Maybe he wants to become a saint.
        Blah

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        • #5
          Interesting.

          Is there any regulation that requires the Prime Minister to be a protestant? I thought they repealed that portion of the test act during the Catholic Emancipation. Catholics can serve in parliament to the same extent as any Protestant. The only trouble now is that you get removed from the line of succession if you convert.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
            Is there any regulation that requires the Prime Minister to be a protestant?
            No. What kind of a democracy would it be otherwise?

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            • #7
              Good riddance. Soon we will have Gordon Brown, who worships the closed wallet...
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              "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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              • #8
                What about his wife?
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                • #9
                  I assume he gets to keep her.
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                  • #10
                    Cherie is Catholic.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
                      Cherie is Catholic.
                      So is the Pope.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by DinoDoc

                        What about his wife?


                        I assume he gets to keep her.

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                        • #13
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                          • #14
                            Bah :
                            "The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists."
                            -Joan Robinson

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Oerdin
                              What about his wife?
                              Deacons aren't required to live in celibacy.
                              Why doing it the easy way if it is possible to do it complicated?

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