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  • #91
    Originally posted by lord of the mark
    that the supply curve is flat
    Why the hell would you assume that?
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    • #92
      Originally posted by Kidicious


      Unbelievable! This is what I've been saying except that the producers with the higher average costs will not sell their farms but wait for demand to increase.
      A lowered demand curve simply intersects the supply curve at a lower price and a lower quantity.

      The marginal suppliers stop supplying. So where does this add up to an increase in the price?
      12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
      Stadtluft Macht Frei
      Killing it is the new killing it
      Ultima Ratio Regum

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      • #93
        Originally posted by lord of the mark
        Kids analysis is correct, but starts from an absurd assumption.

        It doesn't matter that the producers have different average costs, so there is nothing wrong with the assumption. It works. I was just trying to be simple.
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        • #94
          What the **** are you talking about?



          For ****'s sake, look at the diagram at the top of the page.

          We start at D2. We stop eating meat. We move to D1. Where does your price increase come in?
          12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
          Stadtluft Macht Frei
          Killing it is the new killing it
          Ultima Ratio Regum

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          • #95
            Originally posted by KrazyHorse


            A lowered demand curve simply intersects the supply curve at a lower price and a lower quantity.

            The marginal suppliers stop supplying. So where does this add up to an increase in the price?
            As LotM has pointed out short run loses are normal business in agriculture. You don't just sell your farm because you don't earn as much money or even lose money. In fact, you probably have insurance. The price will increase when demand increases again, probably do to population increase.
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            • #96
              Originally posted by KrazyHorse
              What the **** are you talking about?



              For ****'s sake, look at the diagram at the top of the page.

              We start at D2. We stop eating meat. We move to D1. Where does your price increase come in?
              STFU idiot!
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              • #97
                Originally posted by Kidicious


                As LotM has pointed out short run loses are normal business in agriculture. You don't just sell your farm because you don't earn as much money or even lose money. In fact, you probably have insurance. The price will increase when demand increases again, probably do to population increase.
                Who the **** are you, Malthus?

                You're a ****ing muppet.
                12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                Stadtluft Macht Frei
                Killing it is the new killing it
                Ultima Ratio Regum

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                • #98
                  Oh, and could you explain to me what the sale (or not) of individuals' farms to other entities has to do with this, you numbskull?
                  12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                  Stadtluft Macht Frei
                  Killing it is the new killing it
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                  • #99
                    KIDDDIIIEEEE, I missed you. You brighten my days.
                    12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                    Stadtluft Macht Frei
                    Killing it is the new killing it
                    Ultima Ratio Regum

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                    • "At some hypothetical point in the future, the supply curve will be shifted because more people will be around eating food. Therefore, any shift in the demand curve is meaningless."



                      12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                      Stadtluft Macht Frei
                      Killing it is the new killing it
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                      • Originally posted by KrazyHorse


                        Who the **** are you, Malthus?

                        You're a ****ing muppet.
                        Read the ****ing thread! I'm not going to cater to you.
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                        • Originally posted by KrazyHorse
                          "At some hypothetical point in the future, the supply curve will be shifted because more people will be around eating food. Therefore, any shift in the demand curve is meaningless."



                          I specifically said that the supply curve would not shift. Therefore the price would return to equilibrium.

                          Wow! You are soooo incredibly stupid.
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                          • Originally posted by KrazyHorse


                            Why the hell would you assume that?
                            I didnt, it just seemed implicit in what Kid said. Now its less clear if thats what he meant.
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                            • Originally posted by Kidicious



                              It doesn't matter that the producers have different average costs, so there is nothing wrong with the assumption. It works. I was just trying to be simple.
                              it matters immensely, its what determines the elasticity of supply.
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                              • Originally posted by lord of the mark


                                I didnt, it just seemed implicit in what Kid said. Now its less clear if thats what he meant.
                                The long run price is determined by the average cost + normal profit. Of course most producers will make greater than normal profit because they have more productive land, lower taxes, cheaper labor whatever.
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