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  • #76
    Originally posted by Starchild
    No. The UK is clearly Europe's Quebec. We can't decide if we want to be in the thing or not and will never acknowledge the benefits of Europe.

    France is the Texas of Europe. Wants to run the show and can't see why anyone has a problem with that.
    The advantage of this analogy is that it acknowledges that Canada is part of the US.

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    • #77
      Originally posted by DinoDoc
      Wierd. I would have thought that after the failiure of Mitterrand's anti-Thatcher experiment and suffering from chronically high unemployment especially among the youth might have tought even the most brain dead that a return to French socialism isn't the best way to solve France's economic ills.
      At last, an intellectual saves this thread !
      In Soviet Russia, Fake borises YOU.

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      • #78
        Originally posted by Oncle Boris
        At last, an intellectual saves this thread !
        Those in glass houses shouldn't throw stones, fakeboris.
        I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
        For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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        • #79
          Originally posted by BeBro


          How else are we supposed to oppress the rest of Europe?
          The best way to do it is to order their stores not to sell bananas which don't have the proper amount of curve to them.
          Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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          • #80
            Originally posted by Oncle Boris
            Profits of the CAC-40 have been on the rise for the last 5-7 years. Unemployment is going down slowly, but certainly not as fast as profits are rising.
            If I were a French worker, I would wish the unemployment rate to be low, such that I have good pricing power with my employer. This would be preferable to me versus spending my days figuring out how best to go on strike, for example.
            I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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            • #81
              What would Sarko have to do for him to be considered a success? Lower unemployment to the 7% range?
              Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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              • #82
                Originally posted by DanS


                If I were a French worker, I would wish the unemployment rate to be low, such that I have good pricing power with my employer. This would be preferable to me versus spending my days figuring out how best to go on strike, for example.
                Sure, and you'll see that Sarkozy hasn't proposed anything really original to help employment. He still has to show what's so bad about labor laws for instance (he himself negociated the withdrawal of the CPE behind Villepin's and Chirac's back). Expect him to pursue policy favorable to big business, while he arrests brown people.
                In Soviet Russia, Fake borises YOU.

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                • #83
                  Basically it's the same logic over and over again : we need free trade to increase competition. But as more markets open, the number of countries that can draw in enterprises by lowering taxes increases, so everyone needs to do the same. This is the kind of crap Sarkozy argues for : less taxes, less civil servants (for what ? it's not like those people you see at public service points aren't already overhelmed by immense queues).

                  What do you propose ? Rince repeat until universal 0% taxation ?
                  In Soviet Russia, Fake borises YOU.

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                  • #84
                    The solutions seem pretty clear (removing rules), so originality isn't needed. In fact, I would be skeptical about originality, considering the possibility of negative unintended consequences.

                    I know this must be painful to you, but Sarkozy obtained a mandate based on a platform with which you don't agree. Take it like a man.
                    I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by DanS
                      The solutions seem pretty clear (removing rules), so originality isn't needed. In fact, I would be skeptical about originality, considering the possibility of negative unintended consequences.
                      Like what happened in Eastern Europe after the fall of the USSR ? When they realized they had to devise their own ways, because no one had actually really tried ultraliberalism ?

                      We've seen how having less 'rules' (i.e. a beautiful word for letting private interests create them) has helped your country, dude.

                      I know this must be painful to you, but Sarkozy obtained a mandate based on a platform with which you don't agree. Take it like a man.
                      Don't worry, we will.
                      In Soviet Russia, Fake borises YOU.

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by Oncle Boris
                        Like what happened in Eastern Europe after the fall of the USSR ? When they realized they had to devise their own ways, because no one had actually really tried ultraliberalism ?
                        To be honest, I can't fathom what your point is.

                        We've seen how having less 'rules' (i.e. a beautiful word for letting private interests create them) has helped your country, dude.
                        Reagan always will be remembered fondly by a majority, I can assure you.
                        I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by Oncle Boris
                          Basically it's the same logic over and over again : we need free trade to increase competition.
                          You need free trade to ensure each country produces what it has comparative advantage at, with resulting benefits to each country.

                          If youre going to critique that model, fine, but first learn what it is, so you dont sound so much like a fool.
                          "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by Oncle Boris


                            Sure, and you'll see that Sarkozy hasn't proposed anything really original to help employment. He still has to show what's so bad about labor laws for instance
                            i doubt very much that Sarko has called for the abolition of ALL labor laws.
                            "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by Oerdin
                              What would Sarko have to do for him to be considered a success? Lower unemployment to the 7% range?

                              Uh, raise the dead? Part the sea in half?
                              "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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                              • #90
                                Dang LotM on fire.
                                "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

                                “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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