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Evil Estonians Crack Down on Helpless Russian Minority
Yeah, you do that a lot. Stop living in the 1980s. And stop attacking invididuals just because of their ethnicity.
May I attack you just because you're IMHO dumb?
Originally posted by Serb:Please, remind me, how exactly and when exactly, Russia bullied its neighbors?
Originally posted by Ted Striker:Go Serb !
Originally posted by Pekka:If it was possible to capture the essentials of Sepultura in a dildo, I'd attach it to a bicycle and ride it up your azzes.
I'm sorry for you if you think feeling pity for a man who tries to insult Russians by talking about their "Soviet" education, and who writes elaborate conspiracy theories about KGB officials behind every possible world event and toilet-paper-written-insult is "dumb".
I wonder if there were any Frenchmen in the 1960s who ranted on and on about all of them evil nazis deserving to be bombed at whenever they heard anything about Germany, would fit your syndrome quite well.
Originally posted by VJ
I'm sorry for you if you think feeling pity for a man who tries to insult Russians by talking about their "Soviet" education, and who writes elaborate conspiracy theories about KGB officials behind every possible world event and toilet-paper-written-insult is "dumb".
I wonder if there were any Frenchmen in the 1960s who ranted on and on about all of them evil nazis deserving to be bombed at whenever they heard anything about Germany, would fit your syndrome quite well.
Huh?
Originally posted by Serb:Please, remind me, how exactly and when exactly, Russia bullied its neighbors?
Originally posted by Ted Striker:Go Serb !
Originally posted by Pekka:If it was possible to capture the essentials of Sepultura in a dildo, I'd attach it to a bicycle and ride it up your azzes.
Yeah, your reaction is exactly what I mean. You haven't even thought of the situation for 20 years, so you keep on living in your fantasyland, where communist dictators are still leading evil empire, and every bad thing in the world is to be blamed on USSR and KGB.
Absolute good versus absolute evil, absolute evil staying eternally evil, doing evil because it's evil. It's an easy way to view the world, you know. It's also delusional and harmful. But that doesn't seem to bother you. Carry on living in your past, you'll only turn more and more irrelevant with your delusions.
Originally posted by Serb The string of crippling DDoS (distributed denial-of-service) attacks against Estonia doesn't appear to be a coordinated effort by one entity within Russia, wrote Jose Nazario, senior security engineer at Arbor Networks Inc., in a commentary.
unfortunately the article doesnt say what role if any this Nazario had in actually tracking down the attacks. He works for a firm that I, at least have never heard of. Nor does he explain why uncoordinated attacks couldnt have been supported by Russian state authorities.
I dont see why I should treat this as "gospel"
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Yeah, your reaction is exactly what I mean. You haven't even thought of the situation for 20 years, so you keep on living in your fantasyland, where communist dictators are still leading evil empire, and every bad thing in the world is to be blamed on USSR and KGB.
Absolute good versus absolute evil, absolute evil staying eternally evil, doing evil because it's evil. It's an easy way to view the world, you know. It's also delusional and harmful. But that doesn't seem to bother you. Carry on living in your past, you'll only turn more and more irrelevant with your delusions.
This is incorrect. I admit that I may sound like this in discussing a pretty heated issue such as the recent Estonia situation, but trust me, I have a very good and imho balanced understanding of Russia, its role in the world, its potential and its internal & external problems.
Originally posted by Serb:Please, remind me, how exactly and when exactly, Russia bullied its neighbors?
Originally posted by Ted Striker:Go Serb !
Originally posted by Pekka:If it was possible to capture the essentials of Sepultura in a dildo, I'd attach it to a bicycle and ride it up your azzes.
Yeah, your reaction is exactly what I mean. You haven't even thought of the situation for 20 years, so you keep on living in your fantasyland, where communist dictators are still leading evil empire, and every bad thing in the world is to be blamed on USSR and KGB.
Absolute good versus absolute evil, absolute evil staying eternally evil, doing evil because it's evil. It's an easy way to view the world, you know. It's also delusional and harmful. But that doesn't seem to bother you. Carry on living in your past, you'll only turn more and more irrelevant with your delusions.
WTF? this doesnt sound like Saras' posts at all. Please provide quotes to support your position. (yes, hes been heated on Estonia, but thats hardly about things happening all over the world, its about a country very close to his, which happens to be in a somewhat analogous geopolitical position)
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unfortunately the article doesnt say what role if any this Nazario had in actually tracking down the attacks. He works for a firm that I, at least have never heard of. Nor does he explain why uncoordinated attacks couldnt have been supported by Russian state authorities.
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WTF? this doesnt sound like Saras' posts at all. Please provide quotes to support your position. (yes, hes been heated on Estonia, but thats hardly about things happening all over the world, its about a country very close to his, which happens to be in a somewhat analogous geopolitical position)
It's nothing but a ****ty and juvenile low-quality poster. We're not offered any context: it could be a single-print few kids glued to a street wall because they were bored and wanted to have a reason to giggle the first time someone encountered it. Here we have a thread by Saras where he's presuming (and presuming everyone agrees with his presumption -- it's a proven fact as far as he is concerned) that (1) these posters are an organised and well-financed campaign by the Russian government; (2) the campaign is managed by the "Nashis" and "the KGB" (wtf, KGB in 2007?).
When I notice that Saras has absolutely nothing to back up these far-out government conspiracy theories, I become astonished and ask him about it, just to see if he really did a Slaughtermeyer-esque IT'S A CONSPIRACY-thread without any proof whatsoever. He dismisses my requests for proof by saying that of course it's a KGB conspiracy -- what else could it be? "if it quacks like a duck, etc. dude".
What's rich is you were both prime posters in that thread and are now pretending that it doesn't exist.
Perhaps I should've made a copycat thread. Suppose a polytubbie posts a "USA is teh democtacy!11" thread where he would take a pic of "conguer meksiko" graffiti on a wall and then pretended that it would've of course meant that it is a CIA conspiracy to conquer Mexico, which supposedly proves that US isn't a democracy.
How seriously would you take the polytubbie who would post such a thread? I mean, really?
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Theyve got a piece of software thats used by at least one office in lots of firms. Could be as a subcontractor, could be in someone elses installed system, etc, etc. Ive worked in consulting, and Ive seen folks puff up quals lists. Its not that hard. You did a couple of thousand dollars of minor work for some huge agency, and you put them down as your client. Your expertise could be quite limited, very narrow in scope, and you could still have a formidable client list.
In any case I was wondering less about his quals than about his objectivity.
"A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber
"JOSE NAZARIO: It's important to remember that a lot of these computers around the world participating in the attack are doing so without any of the owners' knowledge or consent. The people behind the attacks, however, that's a much different story. And these people often hide their tracks, especially in very high-profile attacks, and to discover that really requires a lot of traditional detective work. And right now we have no evidence that the Russian government was behind any of this."
Hardly a ringing assertion that the Russian govt wasnt behind it.
and if we go back to Serbs link
While it is possible to spoof the origin of a DDoS attack, "none of the sources we have analyzed from around the world show a
clear line from Moscow to Tallin,[/q]" Estonia's capital, Nazario said.
While the Russian government
may
have not been the single source, there is evidence that several Russian-speaking computer gurus may have joined in.
Several Russian-language Web forums have information and scripts that would allow others to rig their computers to join in a DDoS attack, which involves sending massive streams of data to a Web site, causing it to crash. The scripts would cause a computer to send data to a Web site.
"We see signs of Russian nationalism at work here, but no Russian government connection," Nazario wrote."
Basically this shows how well the FSB covered their tracks. Again, tell me how a set of software could uncover who was giving orders, money, etc to a bunch of Russian hackers?
"A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber
"JOSE NAZARIO: It's important to remember that a lot of these computers around the world participating in the attack are doing so without any of the owners' knowledge or consent. The people behind the attacks, however, that's a much different story. And these people often hide their tracks, especially in very high-profile attacks, and to discover that really requires a lot of traditional detective work. And right now we have no evidence that the Russian government was behind any of this."
Hardly a ringing assertion that the Russian govt wasnt behind it.
The Jews were behind 9/11.
There hardly is a ringing assertion that they weren't behind it.
This proves it well enough so nobody can question me, and I can make 50 threads about this in off-topic forum while everyone still should take me seriously.
Originally posted by lord of the mark
Basically this shows how well the FSB covered their tracks. Again, tell me how a set of software could uncover who was giving orders, money, etc to a bunch of Russian hackers?
Basically the fact that I have no proof to offer for The Jews being behind 9/11 simply shows how well the Jews covered their tracks. Again, tell me how it would be possible to uncover The Jews being behind it when they left no proof behind them?
Nobody is gonna be able to prove squat, so it's all guesswork.
I see a reasonable geopolitical basis for the belief (belief - nothing more) that the Russian government had a hand in this. That's about as far as I can go with it - that it's plausible.
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