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  • #76
    So are the French. But in their case it's justified by their cultural superiority.


    I think you're joking, but this is actually true...
    KH FOR OWNER!
    ASHER FOR CEO!!
    GUYNEMER FOR OT MOD!!!

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    • #77
      Originally posted by Ned For a very long time I detected no racism (hatred based on ethic origin) in the Roman Empire. That changed though in the early 400's.
      You detected no racism before the 400's !!
      That's gold.

      What are the limits to your racism detector?
      Is there any racism near me at the moment?
      What about in Vietnam, 5th Century BC?
      Last edited by Lul Thyme; April 12, 2007, 08:06.

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      • #78
        Well make up your mind Ned, is it the English who are evil or the Germans?
        Speaking of Erith:

        "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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        • #79
          Originally posted by Lul Thyme


          You detected no racism before the 400's !!
          That's gold.

          What are the limits to your racism detector?
          Is there any racism near me at the moment?
          What about in Vietnam, 5th Century BC?
          400s is roughly when the Ango-Saxons were about to create proto-England. That's the reason.
          One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

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          • #80
            Can we go back to discussing actors?
            "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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            • #81
              Who's your favourite English actress?
              One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

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              • #82
                Originally posted by Dauphin
                Who's your favourite English actress?
                without thinking too too hard, Id probably say Emma Thompson.
                "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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                • #83
                  Judy Dench

                  -Arrian
                  grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

                  The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by Traianvs


                    Racism existed way before that. As usual, the so called strangers were the scapegoat for everything that went wrong in the empire. True enough they were part of the problem, but at least the German mercenaries did keep the Roman Empire alive for another century or so. That you don't detect any racism before 400 is ridiculous. Check any historical source and you'll see what I mean. In any case, the fact that manumissiones caused many former slaves to rise up high in the administration of the High Empire, made many people jealous. It's a simple explanation, but it's true nuff
                    A link would be appreciated.

                    I think there is a general consensus that the Romans did not hate any particular people so much that they would engage in a general slaughter of them. For example, the wiped out the Jews in the early second century because of a savage guerilla war, not because they hated the Jews. What happened in Italy in the early 400's was an entirely new phenomena, I think.

                    But, again, give me a link to an earlier incident that was clearly hatred based on national origin.
                    http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en

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                    • #85
                      What is it called when everyone who doesn't look like you and/or speak your language is considered a "barbarian" ? Is that "racism" or something else? And does it really matter what term you use?

                      -Arrian
                      grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

                      The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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                      • #86
                        What is it called when everyone who doesn't look like you and/or speak your language is considered a "barbarian"?


                        Common sense.

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by Ned


                          A link would be appreciated.

                          I think there is a general consensus that the Romans did not hate any particular people so much that they would engage in a general slaughter of them. For example, the wiped out the Jews in the early second century because of a savage guerilla war, not because they hated the Jews. What happened in Italy in the early 400's was an entirely new phenomena, I think.

                          But, again, give me a link to an earlier incident that was clearly hatred based on national origin.
                          If you need a link to believe that there was racism before 400AD you've got a problem.

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by Ned

                            The country used to be run by white Anglo-Saxons protestants.
                            No black ones ?

                            You must have heard of Festus S Grant and Rasta M. Nixon.
                            Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.

                            ...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by Ned


                              I think you guys need a real education.
                              Says the man who quotes Holocaust denial websites and a high school girl's essay.


                              I'll wager my racist Socialist anti-family education against yours any day.
                              Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.

                              ...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by Lul Thyme


                                If you need a link to believe that there was racism before 400AD you've got a problem.
                                By the Romans in the Roman Empire.

                                Link please.
                                http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en

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