Drinking in 'moderation'

[Solly]

Originally posted by Dauphin
My idea of drinking in moderation is drinking enough to feel happy, but not so much that I make a complete *** and arse of myself.

If I drink, it;s hardly every in moderation,

Thankfully I only drink about twoce a week.

Only one more sesh left for you this week.

[VetLegion]

Originally posted by Spiffor
For regular drinking, one glass of red wine a day is recommanded. Good for health.

Says who?

[Guynemer]

Originally posted by Asher
What does this have to do with black people?

You do have your moments, Asher.

[Aeson]

The benefits of red wine are present in (red) grape juice as well.

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by VetLegion
Says who?

I've hear it repeated often enough on telly, in health-related programs. Apparently, it has been found by doctors.

Edit: found something recent. From Le Monde, 1st/03/2007

Selon une étude néerlandaise publiée mercredi 28 février, boire de l'alcool quotidiennement et modérément, en particulier du vin rouge, augmenterait l'espérance de vie de plusieurs années chez les hommes d'âge mûr. Cette enquête été menée entre 1960 et 2000, dans la ville de Zutphen, dans l'est des Pays-Bas. Un groupe de 1 373 hommes nés entre 1900 et 1920 a été étudié. Les chercheurs ont suivi certains des sujets jusqu'à leur mort et les autres jusqu'en 2000. Les sujets ont été interrogés à sept reprises sur leur consommation d'alccol, de tabac et sur leurs habitudes alimentaires. Les chercheurs ont étudié leur poids et la prévalence des attaques cardiaques, du diabète et du cancer.


Parmi les hommes ayant participé à l'étude, ceux ayant régulièrement bu un peu moins d'un verre de vin par jour ont une espérance de vie de 3,8 ans plus grande que ceux qui se sont abstenus de boire. Les consommateurs d'alcool autre que du vin ont une espérance de vie de 1,6 année plus grande que ceux qui n'ont jamais bu de boisson alcoolisée.

Martinette Streppel, qui a dirigé l'étude, a expliqué que "les effets protecteurs de l'alcool en quantité modeste pourraient s'expliquer par un lien possible avec un accroissement des lipoprotéines à haute densité (HDL) ou le bon cholestérol et une moindre coagulation sanguine".
"UN À DEUX VERRES PAR JOUR, PAS PLUS"

De plus, les buveurs de vin ont une espérance de vie supérieure de deux ans à celle de personnes buvant d'autres boissons alcooliques, selon l'étude. Les effets bénéfiques du vin rouge pourraient s'expliquer par l'action des polyphénols qu'il contient. Il s'agit d'un anti-oxydant puissant qui s'est révélé très efficace dans une récente étude sur des souris pour neutraliser les effets néfastes d'un mauvais régime alimentaire sur le système cardiovasculaire.

Martinette Streppel conclut que "le principal message est que si vous consommez des boissons alcooliques, faites-le avec modération, un à deux verres par jour, pas plus. Choisissez le vin, car il a un effet bénéfique qui dépasse celui du seul alcool".

A dutch team has surveyed 1373 people born between 1900 and 1920 (the survey had been occuring between 1960 and 2000).
They noticed that those who drank moderately everyday had a life expectancy 3.8 years longer than the others on average. Red wine is particularly good in this regard, because not only does it have the good aspects of alcohol (when drank moderately), it has also specific components that are good for health. Wine-drinkers have, on average, a life expectance longer by 2 years over those who drink another form of alcohol.

The scientists advise one to two glasses of alcohol, preferably red wine, a day.

This study confirms something that is already widely known in France, because any such study tends to get publicity over here

[SlowwHand]

4 beers a night, regular as clockwork.

[Nikolai]

A couple of glasses of wine to dinner in the weekends, and possibly a drink or two later in the evening. Other than that, an occational beer with a friend. Something like that.

[Dinner]

If you drink 1-4 per day then you are a moderate drinker. The US has lower guidelines which are mostly politically/religiously motivated instead of scientifically determined. Most of the European countries consider anything under five to be moderate where as the US considers anything more then two per day to be binge drinking.

It's just another example of politics & religious conservatives stifling scientists in the US.

[C0ckney]

moderation is for wimps.

[loinburger]

I'm a moderate drinker, because if I'm a light drinker then I'm a lightweight but if I'm a heavy drinker then I'm a alcoholic.

[Nikolai]

Originally posted by Oerdin
If you drink 1-4 per day then you are a moderate drinker. The US has lower guidelines which are mostly politically/religiously motivated instead of scientifically determined. Most of the European countries consider anything under five to be moderate where as the US considers anything more then two per day to be binge drinking.

It's just another example of politics & religious conservatives stifling scientists in the US.

This "Europe" obviously doesn't include Norway. Well, except our population of teenagers, but they better sober up anyway.

[Dinner]

BTW my understanding is besides the various compounds found in alcoholic drinks besides alcohol (flavinols, etc), which have their own positive health effects, there is also the positive health effect of alcohol itself. Namely, that alcohol helps to prevent harding of the arteries. Alcohol dehydrates you and causes all your cells to shrink, that is lise, and causes a slight drop in blood pressure along with a moderate thinning of the blood. The shrinking and re-expanding of cells & arteries helps prevent them from harding while the slight drop in blood pressure other effects are also positive to preventing heart attacks.

[-Jrabbit]

I have an occasional beer -- maybe a six-pack every 2 weeks -- plus the occasional glass or two of wine with dinner. On my once-weekly party night (Fridays), I rarely have more than three beers.

Hard liquor? Hardly ever. Usually just one, and only on social occasions like business dinners or holidays.

[Dinner]

Originally posted by Nikolai


This "Europe" obviously doesn't include Norway.

Let me know when you free loading blond oil sheiks of the north finally join the EU.

[SlowwHand]

Oooooh. Nicolai, that has to hurt. You don't have to take that from him. You tell him about it. Go ahead. I'll stand over here.