Muslim group places bounty of of 5,00,000 Rs. on the head of author critical of Islam

[Fake Boris]

[Darius871]

I don't recall defending Drixnak's point Boris. I think both sides of the aisle in that debate are filled to the brim with assumptions.

[Straybow]

Originally posted by Darius871

Originally posted by Odin
The majority of Muslims DON'T support Islamist terrorism, that's my point you dingbat.

And where's the all-encompassing poll proving this point?

Poll? Who cares... Where is even the one, loud, unequivocal voice of condemnation from a native, "mainstream" Muslim?

[Harovan]

Good point. And even if there existed one, it would be dead within a week.

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[EyesOfNight]

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[Fake Boris]

Originally posted by Straybow

Originally posted by Darius871

Originally posted by Odin
The majority of Muslims DON'T support Islamist terrorism, that's my point you dingbat.

And where's the all-encompassing poll proving this point?

Poll? Who cares... Where is even the one, loud, unequivocal voice of condemnation from a native, "mainstream" Muslim?

Bla bla bla...

Where's the "unequivocical" voice of Americans against Abu Ghraib, Iraq, where's the voice to trade to justice the war criminals of Vietnam? If Iran supporting Hezbollah is the proof that they want to eradicate Israel, then does that mean your support of the Contras was a mean to eradicate Nicaragua, and demonstration of your willingness to resort to an unprovoked nuclear attack against socialist regimes?

What do you know of Muslim countries, how would you hear their voice anyway? Do you honestly trust the "free" press of Jesusland? How come there is one billion Muslims in the world, and 10,000 members at most fighting for Al-Qaeda (most of them piss-poor Pachtun peasants offered 5x the wage they would have if they cultivated their soil)?

The reality is that people, for obvious cultural reasons, are never as critical of their own as they are of others - but that in no way implies that Muslims are a mass of murdering terrorists in the waiting. There's more to the world than being against you or with you, y'know.

And yes, if you try to open your mind to Muslim culture, you will see that there's, amongst them, a healthy debate about the issues that the world faces. Just don't expect them to fanatically riot against the fringe elements of their societies, as if they were a simple tool of your worldview - just like we don't see Americans fanatically rioting over the wrongdoings of the corrupt Bush administration.

[Harovan]

You may not be familiar with it, but there are other ways to show your displeasure than "fanatically rioting". You can protest in a civil manner. And that is just what people do in the West, again and again, about all the issues you cited. Bush literally can't do a step out of the White House without getting people on the street. In foreign countries especially, but more and more in America too.

Whereas, honestly, I have yet to see news about people in muslim states protesting against their lunatic fringe. All I can see is silent approval. Must be the "free" press in Jesusland deluding me, of course.

[Fake Boris]

It's people's actions that show their true belief. Don't forget, most Muslim countries aren't liberal democracies where self expression is valued - and where everyone would get their little personal satisfaction, as a citizen, by denouncing anti-environmentalist policies and then driving their cars to work every morning thereafter.

[Fake Boris]

The thing is, you can't expect someone from a country thousands of miles away, where the people don't share anything in common with you (language, culture, wealth level, political tradition), to act and behave like you "would".

[Arrian]

Originally posted by Drixnak

Someday the world will realize how much better off we'd all be without Islam. It needs to be erased from the face of the planet.

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This part I agree with.

Naw, really aneeshm? We'd never have guessed!



-Arrian

[Harovan]

Originally posted by Oncle Boris
The thing is, you can't expect someone from a country thousands of miles away, where the people don't share anything in common with you (language, culture, wealth level, political tradition), to act and behave like you "would".

I would expect a bit more from the millions of muslims, who live among us in our liberal democracies where self-expression is valued. But most of them is "Islam is a religion of peace and violence is wrong, but the West called for it" BS. The only thing that gets them all up in arms, is when the pope or some other bigwig says something remotely resembling an anti-islamic statement (even if it clearly wasn't meant as such).

I'm certainly not into blaming all followers of a religion for the deeds of their lunatics, but if there won't be any anti-terror movement from within Islam soon, my patience will wear out. It's already growing thin.

[Arrian]

That is indeed what pisses many of us off. More disturbing is the hate against those of Muslim heritage (whether they are practicing Muslims or not) who speak out about any of Islams less savory elements. Such as the subject of the OP of this thread. Such as whats-her-face who came over from Holland recently (I'm bad with names, what can I say?). Not only do crazed imams in Iran go ape****, but such people are harrassed/threatened by Muslims living in the West.

-Arrian

[Lord Avalon]

Ayaan Hirsi Ali?

[Whoha]

Originally posted by Oncle Boris
If Iran supporting Hezbollah is the proof that they want to eradicate Israel

I take their constant statements that they want to eradicate Israel as proof that they want to eradicate Israel.

[Nikolai]

Well said.