Leftist youth groups conduct street battles with police in Copenhagen

[BlackCat]

Originally posted by Monk


I had the good sense to reload before getting too far - and then discover that I would credited even if I didn't actually do anything.

They should have that practice at work, too.

Yeah, that would be nice.

Kid had asked what it said in post 800 or so in the old thread and I had promised to look at it after work, but he apparently got impatient and asked one more time.

Good you didn't wasted too much time on it.

[ZEE]

whats the point, kid? you are ignoring me anyways.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by AAHZ

whats the point, kid? you are ignoring me anyways.

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[Kidlicious]

Here's where I got the information about the Fundy squatting.

http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache...lnk&cd=5&gl=us

Faderhuset

“When we take over the house, they (the present users) will simply not be able to step through the doors, because the light of God will be too strong for them. The reason for this is that God is stronger than Satan”.

Ruth Evensen, priest in Faderhuset.


Faderhuset is an extremely fundamentalist Christian sect, which has about 120 members. They believe that they are Gods chosen (hence the name), that they have been given a mission to start a youth movement (and destroy another?) and that Jesus talks directly to them, through their high priest Ruth Evensen. These people are a part of a network of fundamentalist Christians all over the world and although they all fall into the category of “raving mad lunatics”, their dedication, money and absolute obedience to their insane leader, makes them a serious opponent.

Christian squatters

On New Years Eve of 2001, Faderhuset tried to do a bit of direct action and about 80 of them attempted to squat Ungdomshuset. They decided on this date because it was the date where they where supposed to take over the house if there had been no court case about ownership (which there was and it was already running at this time). In other words they said “to hell with the law, we’re moving in”. Now, amusingly, they use every opportunity to state that they believe in the justice system of Denmark and that we’re all obliged to live under the law. Hypocrites.

With the help of a locksmith they managed to get into the house and violently threw out the one person who was there at the time. Needless to say regular users of the house was mobilized within 10 minutes and managed to break down one of their own barricades (it has been reinforced since then) and swarmed into the house where the fundamentalist got a sound kicking before they and their belongings got thrown back out into the streets. Then the sect members pleaded with the police to make them evict the house immediately, but the cops declined their request, because the sect members were the ones who were illegally trespassing.


Faderhuset has never been in doubt what kind of fight they would start by trying to take over Ungdomshuset. They have been asked nicely to stay away, and they have been told in less diplomatic terms also. During their ownership they’ve had their services squatted, their buildings redecorated and has even, as explained above had their asses kicked all over Ungdomshuset. But these people think that the users of Ungdomshuset are the spawn of Satan and that they are on a holy quest to rid the world of such evil. Ruth Evensen has said recently: “We’re fighting on behalf of the justice system. This country is in a state of turmoil, and not since the 2nd world war has the words “God save Denmark” been more relevant”.

[Arrian]

Interesting. Assuming that is an accurate account of events, the fundies were in the wrong there: they should have allowed the court to do its thing. They won in the end, as they should have.

During their ownership they’ve had their services squatted, their buildings redecorated and has even, as explained above had their asses kicked all over Ungdomshuset.

So the activists went and "squatted" at their church services and vandalized their church or other property ("redecorated" = spraypainted, I imagine). Before or after the fundy attempt to out squat the squatters?

-Arrian

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Arrian
Interesting. Assuming that is an accurate account of events, the fundies were in the wrong there: they should have allowed the court to do its thing. They won in the end, as they should have.

Well you obviously say that because you hate anarcists.

[Kidlicious]

This is strange. The official website for Ungdomshuset is not owned by Surftown.

[Arrian]

An offer you can’t refuse


The present situation of the house is as follows: The mayor of Copenhagen, Ritt Bjerregaard, has last week put up a ridicules ”solution” to the conflict. She has suggested that the foundation “Jagtvej 69”, which was originally established by supporters of the house to attempt to buy back the Ungdomshuset, should just buy another house for us who use the house.


Ungdomshuset has answered: “NO ****ing way!” and has explained this answer by saying that there’s no way that the city council can escape the trouble they themselves has started by offering to sell a house. Secondly, and more importantly, the existence of self governed free spaces must never depend on having enough money to buy them.


Ungdomshuset has put out one simple re-demand to the mayor: If she presents a house (of same or larger size, with the same facilities as the present one) under the exact same terms as those under which Ungdomshuset was given to the squatter movement in 1982, then the community will talk to her, not before. The ‘82 terms were simple: An unbreakable contract from the city, giving the usage of the house to the squatters for free, forever.

What. The. ****. ??

Where does this sense of entitlement come from??

-Arrian

p.s. I love the italicization of "sell." It's such a dirty thing, sales! No, they must provide us with stuff for free forever! If they don't, we'll break ****! Rarr!

[ZEE]

from the article:
Needless to say regular users of the house was mobilized within 10 minutes and managed to break down one of their own barricades (it has been reinforced since then) and swarmed into the house where the fundamentalist got a sound kicking before they and their belongings got thrown back out into the streets.

nice. this thing has been boiling and boiling and finally exploded. why are the anarchist's supporters surprised at all over what happened?

[Arrian]

Originally posted by Kidicious


Well you obviously say that because you hate anarcists.

I don't "hate" them, Kid. I disagree with them.

-Arrian

[DinoDoc]

During their ownership they’ve had their services squatted, their buildings redecorated and has even, as explained above had their asses kicked all over Ungdomshuset.

And you wonder why they told the hippies where they could go when they finally cam to their senses and decided to try and pay for it.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Arrian


I don't "hate" them, Kid. I disagree with them.

-Arrian

I'm sure you disagree with many people but you don't wish this on them.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by DinoDoc

During their ownership they’ve had their services squatted, their buildings redecorated and has even, as explained above had their asses kicked all over Ungdomshuset.

And you wonder why they told the hippies where they could go when they finally cam to their senses and decided to try and pay for it.

I wonder why you think they wouldn't anticipate this when they bought the property.

[DinoDoc]

Because they obviously didn't care about the property considering the condition it was in.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Arrian


What. The. ****. ??

Where does this sense of entitlement come from??

They believe they are entitled to live there because they have been there for 17 years. They don't beleive that money = entitelment.