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  • So when is sentience?
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    • Not before the 24th week.
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      • Originally posted by Asher
        The dictionary comment was directed at Ozzy who believes dictionaries have no purpose, as words mean whatever we define them to mean.
        Q: Who writes dictionaries?

        A: "we"
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        • Originally posted by Asher
          Not before the 24th week.
          That's not what I asked.
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          • Not before the 24th week.


            Amillia Taylor shouldn't be alive. She was born at less than 22 weeks - in the US, where babies aren't considered 'viable' until 23 weeks. But her desperate mother lied to doctors about how far gone she was, and Amillia is now the most premature baby to have ever survived. Aida Edemariam reports on her extraordinary story and asks: should we be saving such tiny babies?


            Not killing babies
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            • Originally posted by OzzyKP
              Q: Who writes dictionaries?

              A: "we"
              1. So you are referring to the general consensus deciding what words mean.

              2. In which case you are going with the general consensus that legally aborted babies are not people.

              3. In which case, your comment was clearly made without the definition of person in mind.

              4. My comment was completely accurate in stating so
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              • Originally posted by DinoDoc
                That's not what I asked.
                It is, actually. Look up what sentience means, then given my answer of "not before the 24th week", you can figure out what occurs that makes that week special.

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                • Originally posted by Asher
                  What defines a person is sentience
                  That's your definition. Some people* think you're a person as soon as you're a fertilized egg: that's because they don't deem consciousness to be the defining factor.


                  *Those people might actually be the majority of mankind.
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                  • Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
                    Not before the 24th week.


                    Amillia Taylor shouldn't be alive. She was born at less than 22 weeks - in the US, where babies aren't considered 'viable' until 23 weeks. But her desperate mother lied to doctors about how far gone she was, and Amillia is now the most premature baby to have ever survived. Aida Edemariam reports on her extraordinary story and asks: should we be saving such tiny babies?


                    Not killing babies
                    She survived because of medical technology that emulated the growth received in the womb -- it means nothing.
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                    • Originally posted by Spiffor
                      That's your definition. Some people* think you're a person as soon as you're a fertilized egg: that's because they don't deem consciousness to be the defining factor.

                      *Those people might actually be the majority of mankind.
                      My definition the generally accepted definition, medically and as voiced by the representatives of the people.

                      If most people genuinely thought that, abortions wouldn't happen. The only people who genuinely think that are crazy whacko religious-type people, or arguably French people.
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                      • Asher, you are an idiot. You made a bad snipe and got sucked into defending it.

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                        • You're still weaseling like a liberal arts major, Asher.
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                          • Originally posted by Kuciwalker
                            Asher, you are an idiot. You made a bad snipe and got sucked into defending it.
                            What snipe, blasting the idea that babies < 24 weeks are people?

                            They're not. Ask any reputable medical organization.
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                            • Originally posted by DinoDoc
                              You're still weaseling like a liberal arts major, Asher.
                              There's no weaseling at all. I'm responding to the weaseling from liberal arts majors -- eg, "But some people may not think that sentience is what defines people" -- some people think that UFOs abducted them and injected alien sperm into them, too.
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                              • This.

                                Originally posted by Asher
                                Perhaps in your world, in mine words' definitions are in what are called dictionaries.

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