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  • 'Screw the Market! Socialism to the Rescue' says London's Major


    Livingstone secures cheap oil from Chávez
    By Tom Burgis

    Published: February 20 2007 11:51 | Last updated: February 20 2007 11:51

    President Hugo Chávez’s “21st century socialism” reached the UK yesterday when Venezuela signed an agreement to subsidise the fuel bill for London’s buses by up to $32m (£16m) a year to fund cheap travel for the capital’s poor.

    Ken Livingstone, the city’s mayor, said the 20 per cent discount would fund half-price rates on buses or trams for 250,000 Londoners who receive income support.


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    “This arises on the suggestion of President Hugo Chávez and builds on the work his government is doing around the world in tackling the problems of poverty,” he said.

    In return, the controversial Labour mayor will in April dispatch his transport chief, Peter Hendy, to set up an office in Caracas, where British officials will impart to the Venezuelan capital London’s expertise in traffic management and urban planning.

    The scheme, which will run from July, will see Petróleos de Venezuela, or PDVSA, the state-owned oil company, pay cash to Transport for London, which will reimburse private bus operators for the discounted fares.

    It was first mooted during an unofficial visit to London last May by Venezuela’s firebrand leader, whose “Bolivarian revolution” has included funnelling cheap oil to allies and to poor communities from Bolivia to the Bronx.

    Mr Livingstone acknowledged that the cost of his mission to Caracas will be substantially lower than the value of the fuel subsidy, prompting critics to ask why a developing Latin American nation was offered cash to support a global financial centre.

    Richard Barnes, deputy leader of the opposition Conservative group in the London Assembly, said: “For the mayor to develop a foreign policy of his own is a nonsense. We are a G8 [Group of Eight] capital city and we are getting foreign aid.”

    Despite being the world’s fifth largest oil exporter, over a third of Venezuela’s households continue to live in poverty, according to official figures.

    Nicolas Maduro, Venezuelan foreign minister, defended the move as a “win-win deal” designed to help create “a multipolar world based on solidarity”.

    Mr Chavez has used offers of discounted oil supplies as a tool to capture support from far-flung political allies. The most extensive deal is with Cuba, which receives some around 90,000 barrels per day in fuel from Venezuela.

    As part of the original deal with Mr Livingstone, which has been in the works for at least a year, the mayor of London’s office had pledged to “actively and efficiently promote Venezuela’s image in the UK”.

    Additional reporting by Andrew Webb-Vidal in Caracas
    Copyright The Financial Times Limited 2007


    I remember Chavez offering Oil to NY during the last (real) Winter.
    So what do you think?
    Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

  • #2
    He's not called Red Ken for nothing. And he's promoted the image of crazier people before.
    I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
    For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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    • #3
      I love it--

      If some mayor can get cheaper fuel for his city-- goood for him.

      If Chavez thinks he will get good publicity or some trade or something else of value . . . good for him

      I don't see anything wrong with this as all other tghan I find it puzzling that Chavez would give or subsidize fuel to any portion of a western nation when his own people undoubtedly suffer worse poverty than the people of the UK
      You don't get to 300 losses without being a pretty exceptional goaltender.-- Ben Kenobi speaking of Roberto Luongo

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      • #4
        Shouldn't Chavez be using that money to, I dunno, help his own country?
        “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
        - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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        • #5
          and I don't see how this is "screw the market"


          a mayor buys fuel at the cheapest price available. Chavez buys good publicity at a price that he sees as fair.

          The market in action
          You don't get to 300 losses without being a pretty exceptional goaltender.-- Ben Kenobi speaking of Roberto Luongo

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
            Shouldn't Chavez be using that money to, I dunno, help his own country?
            Where would be the fun in that? He's already got power in his country. Now it's time to use his wealth to find allies in upstanding people like Ahmadinejad, Castro, and Red Ken.
            I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
            For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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            • #7
              Hang on, doesn't Venezuela need the money slightly more than London?
              Speaking of Erith:

              "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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              • #8
                I think it's damn decent of this Chavez chap.

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                • #9
                  I have a friend from Colombia who often also mixes up his j's and y's when spelling.
                  THEY!!111 OMG WTF LOL LET DA NOMADS AND TEH S3D3NTARY PEOPLA BOTH MAEK BITER AXP3REINCES
                  AND TEH GRAAT SINS OF THERE [DOCTRINAL] INOVATIONS BQU3ATH3D SMAL
                  AND!!1!11!!! LOL JUST IN CAES A DISPUTANT CALS U 2 DISPUT3 ABOUT THEYRE CLAMES
                  DO NOT THAN DISPUT3 ON THEM 3XCAPT BY WAY OF AN 3XTARNAL DISPUTA!!!!11!! WTF

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                  • #10
                    My thought is that if Chavez wants to give away oil (or rather sell it at below-market rates), um, ok, good for London. Were I Venezuelan, I might not be amused, but I'm not so :shrug:

                    -Arrian
                    grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

                    The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Provost Harrison
                      Hang on, doesn't Venezuela need the money slightly more than London?
                      QFT

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Flubber
                        and I don't see how this is "screw the market"


                        a mayor buys fuel at the cheapest price available. Chavez buys good publicity at a price that he sees as fair.

                        The market in action
                        Righto. How is this different than say buying goods from China?

                        If Chavez wants to exploit his own people so be it.
                        "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

                        “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Provost Harrison
                          Hang on, doesn't Doddler need the money slightly more than London?
                          Now you're talking
                          www.my-piano.blogspot

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Provost Harrison
                            Hang on, doesn't Venezuela need the money slightly more than London?
                            QFT
                            "I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
                            "I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
                            "I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- Dis

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                            • #15
                              The Venezuelans are getting "London’s expertise in traffic management and urban planning" in return, the poor things. So congestion charges and road-humps everywhere.

                              A least it makes a change from Livingstone's usual buddies like mad clerics who want to exterminate homosexuals.

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