Have you ever been unfaithful?

[Apocalypse]

Originally posted by Arrian
Did you know she was married when you ****ed her?

-Arrian

Actually I thought she was divorced already.

She ended up getting one shortly after and got with a long time good friend of hers and dupped him that it was his. There ended up being a miscarriage of the twins so the drama is over.

[Spec]

Originally posted by Pekka
No, please explain what other things exists between two or more people? Love? Love is just a subset of trust You only love people you can trust. If there is no trust, well, there is no real love, just obsession.

Teamwork.

I consider my lover/gf/partner to be my teammate in everything. So trust is not the only issue.

-Understanding
-Compassion
-Passion
-Affection
-Support
-Completion

Etc...

Spec.

[Arrian]

Wow, what a mess. But it's good (IMO) that you didn't realize she was still married.

-Arrian

[Apocalypse]

Originally posted by Arrian
Wow, what a mess. But it's good (IMO) that you didn't realize she was still married.

-Arrian

But I have done things recently where I knew the girl was taken. I slept with a woman who I later found out had been dating a guy for 7 years and lost it to him 2 months earlier. Another was over christmas break where I fooled around with a friend whose boyfriend I really didn't like.

[Pekka]

Spec, sure, sure.. I agree with that. I'm just saying that my personal opinion is that trust is the key, when you have that, you can have all the other things as well. Of course you can start from passion, affection etc, like you usually start. But there needs to be trust at some point. If trust does not develop, a real relationship is impossible. This is my personal opinion.

And it's just one of those few things I expect people to follow when gaining trust. Not much. Just few things. In relationship, not cheating is pretty much the biggest thing. Being drunk won't be an excuse with me. Can it be worked, could I get over if someone cheated on me? Maybe. Say, we have a child or children, then we should work it out if it was a one time thing. If not? It's overrrrr..

[Lorizael]

I've also never technically been cheated on. My first girlfriend and I had an "open relationship." So open, in fact, that she thought it would be really perfectly cool and alright to, while drunk, give an old friend of mine a blowjob while I "slept" on the couch several feet away. Man, I love open relationships. And alcohol too. Great stuff.

[Arrian]

Ack!

That might actually be worse than a friend of mine's experience in high school... his gf cheated on him with a woman. That really messed him up.

-Arrian

[Pekka]

Lorizael, I should point out that when I say trust is the key, well, if you have an open relationship like that, then it's not cheating, so .. I don't see a problem with that. I guess that's even bigger trust if a couple would do that. Not for me, but if it's for you, all the power to you.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Pekka
Can it be worked, could I get over if someone cheated on me? Maybe. Say, we have a child or children, then we should work it out if it was a one time thing. If not? It's overrrrr..

OMG, never try to work it out. Why would they ever respect you? They are cheaters, scum, just like you said.

[Lorizael]

Originally posted by Pekka
Lorizael, I should point out that when I say trust is the key, well, if you have an open relationship like that, then it's not cheating, so .. I don't see a problem with that. I guess that's even bigger trust if a couple would do that. Not for me, but if it's for you, all the power to you.

I found out then that, while I was intellectually okay with the concept of an open relationship, I was not emotionally okay with it.

[Pekka]

Because sometimes there are more important things in life, like, well, your own children. What I'm saying is you should try to work it out. If it doesn't.. hey, then it doesn't. But an effort should be made, this is my opinion.

[LordShiva]

I'm never unfaithful, but some of the women I hook up with are

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Pekka
Because sometimes there are more important things in life, like, well, your own children. What I'm saying is you should try to work it out. If it doesn't.. hey, then it doesn't. But an effort should be made, this is my opinion.

I can see your point for a man, because you probably would not get custody of your kids and you will miss them and they some ******* will move into your house.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Arrian
Ack!

That might actually be worse than a friend of mine's experience in high school... his gf cheated on him with a woman. That really messed him up.

-Arrian

My exwife did both. I think men are worse although the worse part is the actual betrayal and lying so both are about the same.

[Pekka]

Exactly And splitting up the capital, given that you were the main source of income.. you have to look at who did what, so I don't think a cheater deserves a dime, or custody.

Plus, it would be the mother of the kids, so.. you don't want to turn into an all out war either, it has to be about the kids, not about you or anyone else so.. you just need to make nice if you can. Or at least try. What some of these parents do, they use the kids as pawns between their own battle. That's just stupid, they should be executed for it.