Originally posted by Arrian
No, that's a subset of atheists. Evangelical atheists, I guess, would be the term.
-Arrian
No, that's a subset of atheists. Evangelical atheists, I guess, would be the term.
-Arrian
Cort Haus:
It gets worse. Continually more absurd and ludicrous definitions of atheism. That's like saying "Christians are those who set fire to people". It it doesn't fit you you're most probably not a Christian.
You should read my posts in the context of all my posts in this thread. I tried to write down how an atheist has a very clear opinion, which is totally different then an agnost, who has not such a clear opinion on this issue. I was giving examples of how atheists differ from agnosts and how they, by different examples, were typical religious people.
I dunno ... what do I expect though? This is a CyberShy thread.
Or are you some silly one line slap dude?
Buddhism is rife with supernatural beliefs, reincarnation, dualism, universal creators. No God doesn't mean no supernaturality
Original buddhism knew no creator or dualism. It just said that desiring leads to suffering and if you can get rid of all your desires you'll be rid of all your suffering and end up in the Nirvana, which is everything and nothing at the same time. And no, you can't desire to reach the nirvana.
Later on parts of buddhism have merged with hinduism.
I think even you are smart enough to tell the difference between a few bozos putting up a short video on youtube versus the continual, traditional, regularly intervaled rituals of religions.
Religions aren't like football teams in the league, they're all the same but wear another shirt. Religions differ very very very much from each other. There are the old germanic religions, the egyptian religions, all those religions didn't believe in extra-universal gods but just described the stuff they didn't understand to a god. That's totally different from the monotheistic religions that believe in a God outside our reality.
The eastern religions are totally different from the western religion. The new religions are totally different from the old ones. If you want to compare New Age or satanism to Judaism it may be impossible to find anything they share. They're still both religions though.
As they should because agnosticism and atheism are not incompatable and in fact are thoroughly mixed into each other. There is no clear dividing line.
really, WOW!
I'm studying theology on a secular university. I have professors who are atheists, who are muslim, or are liberal christians and who are orthodox christians. ALL of them agree that atheism is really not the same as agnosticism. They come from The Netherlands, Belgium, Austria, all of the EU. They have visited africa, america, asia, etc. etc.
They have more knowledge in the left toe nail then you and me combined in everything we ever learned.
And all of them agree that atheism isn't the same as agnosticism.
It's not as if me, CyberShy, the lunatic, is claming this. It's well known among all experts of religion, theology, gods, ideals and cultures that atheism != agnosticism.
hence, that's why there are two terms to describe these things.
Though I style myself an atheist (the reason is to emphasize the extreme lack of validity of God in my epistimology), I easily fit under the definition of agnostic as well.
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Originally posted by LordShiva
Belief system != Religion
(or has someone already said that?)
Originally posted by LordShiva
Belief system != Religion
(or has someone already said that?)
Cort Housa: I think nearly everyone has been saying that, but the message is not being heard.
Nobody has said that believe system = religion either though.
Provost Harrison:
Besides, no one has achieved a successful rebuttal of the pink unicorn yet, nor the spaghetti monster creator..
The old argument that you have been using for 7 years has been rebutted like 1000 times.
And I'll do it again.
I'm not claiming that there is no PU or SMC.
But I know that there's nobody who has ever claimed that they do exist and there's no argument or reason to believe they exist.
That's why they are uncomparable with god(s).
If you keep on comparing these two together you only show that your way of reasoning and argumentating is pretty low level (eventhough you consider yourself to be pretty smart).
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