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They will though... it makes a lot of sense (the theories which require it).
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Nope, 'cuz atheism doesn't require supernatural beliefs or central dogma or rituals or any of that religiony stuffs there are atheists without any religion like me!Originally posted by CyberShy
Ok, atheism is a bunch of religions, like monotheism. Do we agree now :PAPOSTOLNIK BEANIE BERET BICORNE BIRETTA BOATER BONNET BOWLER CAP CAPOTAIN CHADOR COIF CORONET CROWN DO-RAG FEDORA FEZ GALERO HAIRNET HAT HEADSCARF HELMET HENNIN HIJAB HOOD KABUTO KERCHIEF KOLPIK KUFI MITRE MORTARBOARD PERUKE PICKELHAUBE SKULLCAP SOMBRERO SHTREIMEL STAHLHELM STETSON TIARA TOQUE TOUPEE TRICORN TRILBY TURBAN VISOR WIG YARMULKE ZUCCHETTOComment
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Yeah, underneath my rough and tumbles exterior I'm like totally sugarpies and sweetieplums.Originally posted by LordShiva
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Absolutely! Part of freedom of religion is freedom to not have religionOriginally posted by Kuciwalker Should atheism be protected under religious freedoms?
It's all a big mess. I style myself an atheist mostly but there's certainly elements of agnosticism to my worldview.Originally posted by Jon Miller
But I could conceive of an agnostic atheist. How would such a thing be different then a weak atheist? Or do you not think such a thing could exist? If so, why?APOSTOLNIK BEANIE BERET BICORNE BIRETTA BOATER BONNET BOWLER CAP CAPOTAIN CHADOR COIF CORONET CROWN DO-RAG FEDORA FEZ GALERO HAIRNET HAT HEADSCARF HELMET HENNIN HIJAB HOOD KABUTO KERCHIEF KOLPIK KUFI MITRE MORTARBOARD PERUKE PICKELHAUBE SKULLCAP SOMBRERO SHTREIMEL STAHLHELM STETSON TIARA TOQUE TOUPEE TRICORN TRILBY TURBAN VISOR WIG YARMULKE ZUCCHETTOComment
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about supernatural beliefs: neither do many eastern religions, like Buddhism.Originally posted by Perfection
Nope, 'cuz atheism doesn't require supernatural beliefs or central dogma or rituals or any of that religiony stuffs there are atheists without any religion like me!
central dogma: there is no god or anything supernatural, what you see is what you get
rituals: post your "I deny God" movie, shout "There is no god" from the roof of your house (few years ago in scandinavia), preaching, carpe diem, do everything that makes you happy.
Many people mix up agnostics with atheists. Somebody who doens't really believe in (a) god is not by default atheist. If they don't really care about it, they're most probably agnostic. Atheists are those who voice their opinion publicly all the time and do the stuff I mentioned above. If it doesn't fit to you you're most probably not an atheist.Formerly known as "CyberShy"
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No, that's a subset of atheists. Evangelical atheists, I guess, would be the term.Atheists are those who voice their opinion publicly all the time and do the stuff I mentioned above.
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The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.Comment
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Originally posted by CyberShy
Atheists are those who voice their opinion publicly all the time and do the stuff I mentioned above. If it doesn't fit to you you're most probably not an atheist.
It gets worse. Continually more absurd and ludicrous definitions of atheism. That's like saying "Christians are those who set fire to people". It it doesn't fit you you're most probably not a Christian.
I dunno ... what do I expect though? This is a CyberShy thread.Comment
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Buddhism is rife with supernatural beliefs, reincarnation, dualism, universal creators. No God doesn't mean no supernaturalityOriginally posted by CyberShy
about supernatural beliefs: neither do many eastern religions, like Buddhism.
I think even you are smart enough to tell the difference between a few bozos putting up a short video on youtube versus the continual, traditional, regularly intervaled rituals of religions.Originally posted by CyberShy
rituals: post your "I deny God" movie, shout "There is no god" from the roof of your house (few years ago in scandinavia), preaching, carpe diem, do everything that makes you happy.
As they should because agnosticism and atheism are not incompatable and in fact are thoroughly mixed into each other. There is no clear dividing line. Though I style myself an atheist (the reason is to emphasize the extreme lack of validity of God in my epistimology), I easily fit under the definition of agnostic as well.Originally posted by CyberShy
Many people mix up agnostics with atheists.APOSTOLNIK BEANIE BERET BICORNE BIRETTA BOATER BONNET BOWLER CAP CAPOTAIN CHADOR COIF CORONET CROWN DO-RAG FEDORA FEZ GALERO HAIRNET HAT HEADSCARF HELMET HENNIN HIJAB HOOD KABUTO KERCHIEF KOLPIK KUFI MITRE MORTARBOARD PERUKE PICKELHAUBE SKULLCAP SOMBRERO SHTREIMEL STAHLHELM STETSON TIARA TOQUE TOUPEE TRICORN TRILBY TURBAN VISOR WIG YARMULKE ZUCCHETTOComment
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Belief system != Religion
(or has someone already said that?)THEY!!111 OMG WTF LOL LET DA NOMADS AND TEH S3D3NTARY PEOPLA BOTH MAEK BITER AXP3REINCES
AND TEH GRAAT SINS OF THERE [DOCTRINAL] INOVATIONS BQU3ATH3D SMAL
AND!!1!11!!! LOL JUST IN CAES A DISPUTANT CALS U 2 DISPUT3 ABOUT THEYRE CLAMES
DO NOT THAN DISPUT3 ON THEM 3XCAPT BY WAY OF AN 3XTARNAL DISPUTA!!!!11!! WTFComment
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I think nearly everyone has been saying that, but the message is not being heard.Originally posted by LordShiva
Belief system != Religion
(or has someone already said that?)
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THEY!!111 OMG WTF LOL LET DA NOMADS AND TEH S3D3NTARY PEOPLA BOTH MAEK BITER AXP3REINCES
AND TEH GRAAT SINS OF THERE [DOCTRINAL] INOVATIONS BQU3ATH3D SMAL
AND!!1!11!!! LOL JUST IN CAES A DISPUTANT CALS U 2 DISPUT3 ABOUT THEYRE CLAMES
DO NOT THAN DISPUT3 ON THEM 3XCAPT BY WAY OF AN 3XTARNAL DISPUTA!!!!11!! WTFComment
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Damn, this thread exploded.Click here if you're having trouble sleeping.
"We confess our little faults to persuade people that we have no large ones." - François de La RochefoucauldComment
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That's what I make threads do!Originally posted by Lorizael
Damn, this thread exploded.APOSTOLNIK BEANIE BERET BICORNE BIRETTA BOATER BONNET BOWLER CAP CAPOTAIN CHADOR COIF CORONET CROWN DO-RAG FEDORA FEZ GALERO HAIRNET HAT HEADSCARF HELMET HENNIN HIJAB HOOD KABUTO KERCHIEF KOLPIK KUFI MITRE MORTARBOARD PERUKE PICKELHAUBE SKULLCAP SOMBRERO SHTREIMEL STAHLHELM STETSON TIARA TOQUE TOUPEE TRICORN TRILBY TURBAN VISOR WIG YARMULKE ZUCCHETTOComment
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Originally posted by Kuciwalker
I'll grant you're serious, PH, as you've never shown any trace of a sense of humor.
Kuci, you are completely devoid of humour, and as for subtlety...*whoosh*...straight over your head...Speaking of Erith:
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Couldn't you two MrFun-wannabes go deplore one another's lack of humour somewhere else?
Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?
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The Nedaverse I can accept, but not the Berzaverse. There can only be so many alternate realities. -- ElokComment
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But it's fun watching the two of them go back and forth. It's like metacomedy or something.Click here if you're having trouble sleeping.
"We confess our little faults to persuade people that we have no large ones." - François de La RochefoucauldComment
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