Pickton - Murderer of 49 women ("Was gonna do 1 more - make it an even 50")

[Asher]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
How does killing someone bring about closure?

If you had testosterone you may understand why revenge can be closure.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
How does killing someone bring about closure? And if it does, you aren't that decent of a human being anyway.

Ask the families of the victims of Clifford Olsen whenever he comes up for parole.

It's never over til the animal is dead.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by notyoueither


Not to quibble about definitions...

If there is no doubt about the guilt of a person who kills and chops up 50 other people, if there is no hope of rehabilitation, if there is no possibility of ever releasing that person...

Then the only good that the mass murderer might be able to do is give a final sense of closure to the victims left behind (the families) by his or her own death.

Robert Pickton is a human being, and has inherent moral value.

There is no reason to keep such an animal alive, and there may well be reasons to put it to death.

I disagree with your characterisation of the defendant

[Asher]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse
Robert Pickton is a human being, and has inherent moral value.

On the contrary, he is not a human being. He is:

1) A murderer
2) A pigfarmer
3) An ugly ****

#3 is enough for a death sentence already, but if you add in #1 and #2 I'd have to ask why he hasn't been killed already. If we did he'd not have murdered those poor, innocent slutty girls.

[Kuciwalker]

I don't assign any moral value to a person like him.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse

Robert Pickton is a human being, and has inherent moral value.

I disagree with your characterisation of the defendant

I guess that is the essence of our disagreement.

I do believe that some humans are better off dead. They are very few and usually far between, but they exist.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Asher

If you had testosterone you may understand why revenge can be closure.

I have testosterone. I keep it in a jar.

[chequita guevara]

Justice isn't about criminals. It's about us. We degrade ourselves when we kill, even if it's for revenge.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by notyoueither


I guess that is the essence of our disagreement.

I do believe that some humans are better off dead. They are very few and usually far between, but they exist.

Your position is, to me, repugnant.

[KrazyHorse]

Same goes for Asher and Kuci, who have said essentially the same thing.

[Asher]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse
Same goes for Asher and Kuci, who have said essentially the same thing.

Why don't we ship all murderers to Quebec then, if you guys like them so much.

They would fit right in with your average rampaging Quebecois student.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse


Your position is, to me, repugnant.

Yours sort of is to me as well.

Especially when you are in favour of Saddam buying the farm.

If you're going to mount some moral high horse, you should do your best to stay on top of it.

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by notyoueither
Yours sort of is to me as well.

Especially when you are in favour of Saddam buying the farm.

If you're going to mount some moral high horse, you should do your best to stay on top of it.

He was actually consistent on that issue. Saddam had to die because he was a continuing security threat.

[Kuciwalker]

I don't find KH's view repugnant at all. I don't agree with it, and find nothing wrong with killing such people, but I'm not particularly offended by not killing them either.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Justice isn't about criminals. It's about us. We degrade ourselves when we kill, even if it's for revenge.

I don't agree that killing mass murderers degrades us if there is no possibility of their innocence.