Will americans say "yes maam" to their next president ?

[Dis]

I'm sure she's more masculine than some of the other candidates. I'll call her sir.

[Harry Tuttle]

Originally posted by Solver
But, with so many Americans here saying Hillary is a horrible candidate, which issues exactly make her so bad?

Well, for one, she blew the cover and the great right wing conspiracy against her husband! Someone that intuitive must be stopped!

[Chemical Ollie]

Originally posted by Solver
But, with so many Americans here saying Hillary is a horrible candidate, which issues exactly make her so bad?

She sucks. Literally. The semen flows down her bra.

[Dis]

Originally posted by Chemical Ollie


She sucks. Literally. The semen flows down her bra.

no she doesn't suck. That was the problem back in 1998. Remember?

[DRoseDARs]

Originally posted by Pekka
They should put McCain against Clinton, because he would be able to score the democrat votes against Clinton, plus score the republican vote as well. To me, McCain feels like a good candidate, and me thinks he would make a good president as well

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You've got to be kidding, Pekka...

http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/9658.html

January 18, 2007
McCain was against lobbying reform before he was for it
Posted 12:30 pm

Last year, Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), perhaps best known for the campaign finance reform measure that bears his name, sponsored another reform measure that would require grassroots lobbying coalitions to reveal their financial donors. For McCain, at the time, it was all about his signature domestic policy concern: transparency and accountability in the political process.

This year, McCain opposes the very measure he used to champion.

Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) has told conservative activists that he will vote to strip a key provision on grassroots lobbying from the reform package he previously supported.

The provision would require grassroots organizations to report on their fundraising activities and is strongly opposed by groups such as the National Right to Life Committee, Gun Owners of America, and the American Civil Liberties Union.

While grassroots groups on both sides of the political spectrum oppose the proposal, social conservative leaders such as Dr. James Dobson, founder of Focus on the Family, who broadcasts a radio program to hundreds of thousands of evangelical Christians, have been its most vehement critics.

Asked to explain the complete reversal, McCain’s spokesperson said the senator changed his mind after receiving “feedback” from conservative groups, which, coincidentally, just happen to be some of the same far-right activist organizations McCain hopes to impress for his presidential campaign.

Of course, you know what this means — it’s time to update the list of McCain’s biggest flip-flops as he transforms himself from maverick hero to right-wing hack. We’re up to 15 now.

* McCain said before the war in Iraq, “We will win this conflict. We will win it easily.” Four years later, McCain said he knew all along that the war in Iraq war was “probably going to be long and hard and tough.” (My note: Then there's this gem, "It was easy, it was easy. I said the military operation would be easy. It was easy. We were greeting as liberators. Look at the films of when we rolled into Baghdad.")

* McCain went from saying he would not support repeal of Roe v. Wade to saying the exact opposite.

* McCain went from saying gay marriage should be allowed, to saying gay marriage shouldn’t be allowed.

* McCain criticized TV preacher Jerry Falwell as “an agent of intolerance” in 2002, but has since decided to cozy up to the man who said Americans “deserved” the 9/11 attacks. (Indeed, McCain has now hired Falwell’s debate coach.)

* McCain used to oppose Bush’s tax cuts for the very wealthy, but he reversed course in February.

* In 2000, McCain accused Texas businessmen Sam and Charles Wyly of being corrupt, spending “dirty money” to help finance Bush’s presidential campaign. McCain not only filed a complaint against the Wylys for allegedly violating campaign finance law, he also lashed out at them publicly. In April, McCain reached out to the Wylys for support.

* McCain supported a major campaign-finance reform measure that bore his name. In June, he abandoned his own legislation.

* McCain used to think that Grover Norquist was a crook and a corrupt shill for dictators. Then McCain got serious about running for president and began to reconcile with Norquist.

* McCain took a firm line in opposition to torture, and then caved to White House demands.

* McCain opposed a holiday to honor Martin Luther King, Jr., before he supported it. [corrected]

* McCain was against presidential candidates campaigning at Bob Jones University before he was for it.

* McCain was anti-ethanol. Now he’s pro-ethanol.

* McCain was both for and against state promotion of the Confederate flag.

* McCain decided in 2000 that he didn’t want anything to do with former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, believing he “would taint the image of the ‘Straight Talk Express.’” Kissinger is now the Honorary Co-Chair for his presidential campaign in New York.

Remember, McCain still believes his strength as a candidate is his credibility and consistency.

It’s also worth noting that McCain’s desperate attempts to reinvent himself may be backfiring. American Research Group, a New Hampshire-based polling firm, recently found that McCain’s popularity among independents in the Granite State has “collapsed.” (thanks to T.B. for the tip)

“John McCain is tanking,” says ARG president Dick Bennett. “That’s the big thing [we’re finding]. In New Hampshire a year ago he got 49 percent among independent voters. That number’s way down, to 29 percent now.”

McCain is struggling with Republicans who don’t trust him, independents who are disappointed in him, and Democrats who’ve grown disgusted with him. Other than these voters, however, McCain’s in great shape.

[Wycoff]

Originally posted by Brachy-Pride That allows republicans to get many "christian" votes, but in spite of that, it seems to me that republican opposition to abortion and gay marriage is just words, smoke, that they havent been able to change much about those 2 issues, so that voting republicans and democrats, even if they have different point of views, ends up being the same, because little or nothing changes.

That's been a major complaint of right wing Christian fundamentalist recently. Some leaders feel that the Republicans are just giving them lip service to gain their votes, only to ignore them when they have power. The more they feel this way, the more likely they are to stay home on election day. I'd expect the fundies to stay home if the GOP nominated a social moderate like Rudy Guliani.

However, the Clintons are the ultimate boogeymen to the fundies (though I'm not sure why. Bill was rather centrist.) Nominating Hillary could envigorate the Christian fundies, because they'll be out in droves just to vote against her so long as the GOP candidate is at least someone slightly tolerable. I don't know what happens in a Rudy v. Hillary match-up.

[Zkribbler]

Originally posted by Solver
But, with so many Americans here saying Hillary is a horrible candidate, which issues exactly make her so bad?

No so much issue (although the Repugs are scared to death of her), but her personality is that of an Ice Queen.

I saw her announcement speech, though. She not only managed to smile but made it look genuine. She must have been practicing for months.

[BlackCat]

Originally posted by DRoseDARs


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You've got to be kidding, Pekka...

http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/9658.html

What are his chances of being elected ? I mean, here he would be dead meat politically, but it seems that things are a bit different in US.

[Traianvs]

It would make things complicated: Bush-Clinton-Clinton-Bush-Bush-Clinton


It would even the time in power for each dynasty though

[BlackCat]

Originally posted by Traianvs
It would make things complicated: Bush-Clinton-Clinton-Bush-Bush-Clinton


It would even the time in power for each dynasty though

What are you talking about ??? this is the US of America where newspaper boys ends as president and not like the mean europe where you can't move outside your class and where the old nobility rules

[Solver]

Then again, the US has never had a woman president. Is this really probable this time around?

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Pekka
They should put McCain against Clinton,

McCain may be the current GOP front runner, but he's blown his credibility sucking up to the right and voting for torture.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by Zkribbler
No so much issue (although the Repugs are scared to death of her), but her personality is that of an Ice Queen.

I saw her announcement speech, though. She not only managed to smile but made it look genuine. She must have been practicing for months.

Yep, the Zkrib got it. Personality is a BIG deal in running for President in the TV era. Someone perceived as cold or haughty is going to face incredible problems. George H.W. Bush had Reagan's Vice President going for him, but was well down in the polls early on. He had to show a more down to Earth side in order to win... and then in the general he was faced with Dukakis, who even John Kerry could beat.

Hillary is well known for having little warmth in her personality. She is more of a pragmatic, well.. Ice Queen. Look at the portrayal in "Primary Colors".

[chequita guevara]

I want Hillary to win for just one reason: every dittohead in the country will suffer a massive coronary or stroke.

[Pekka]

che, he voted FOR that bill? well, that's one bill that is a definite tideturner for me. I don't see anyone voting for that bill being a good candidate.