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Paitkas not Patroklos"Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson
“In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter
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Originally posted by LordShiva
I voted for Night Owl, but who is Heartland Eater?
That would be me. The Heartland Cafe is a hippie-granola type place in Chicago with "natural" food and one hell of a beer selection. Before the micro brew fad caught on, it was the only place in the Midwest you could find a beer that didn't taste like piss and detergent. It has some ties to the Chicago left. Both TCP and I have eaten and drunk there, though not knowingly at the same time if ever.
Also, the t-shirt comment refers to Che t-shirts.Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...
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I voted for Heartland Eater, because I like the name. But I know "night owl" refers to me.“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
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Che's not a liberal.THEY!!111 OMG WTF LOL LET DA NOMADS AND TEH S3D3NTARY PEOPLA BOTH MAEK BITER AXP3REINCES
AND TEH GRAAT SINS OF THERE [DOCTRINAL] INOVATIONS BQU3ATH3D SMAL
AND!!1!11!!! LOL JUST IN CAES A DISPUTANT CALS U 2 DISPUT3 ABOUT THEYRE CLAMES
DO NOT THAN DISPUT3 ON THEM 3XCAPT BY WAY OF AN 3XTARNAL DISPUTA!!!!11!! WTF
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Originally posted by Cort Haus
My vote is shared between Arrian and Zkribbler. These guys come across as genuine moderates, and not zealots like many of the more "illiberal liberal" types on here - who can be liberal today, but neocon tomorrow.
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Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Originally posted by LordShiva
I voted for Night Owl, but who is Heartland Eater?
That would be me. The Heartland Cafe is a hippie-granola type place in Chicago with "natural" food and one hell of a beer selection. Before the micro brew fad caught on, it was the only place in the Midwest you could find a beer that didn't taste like piss and detergent. It has some ties to the Chicago left. Both TCP and I have eaten and drunk there, though not knowingly at the same time if ever.
Also, the t-shirt comment refers to Che t-shirts."Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson
“In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter
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Originally posted by LordShiva
Che's not a liberal.Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...
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The great irony of all this is, the American political spectrum has shifted so far to the right that conservatism (as defined by AuH2O) is liberal now.Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...
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Spin it how ever you want Oggie but this boils down to posting a political hit piece in the OP and then whining when someone calls you on it. The rest of us have come to expect that out of you.Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.
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Originally posted by Oerdin
Spin it how ever you want Oggie but this boils down to posting a political hit piece in the OP and then whining when someone calls you on it. The rest of us have come to expect that out of you.
Only the likes of you could read it otherwise. And decide unlike any other poster in the thread to be hack about it.
Again, not unsurprising."Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson
“In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter
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Originally posted by Cort Haus
My vote is shared between Arrian and Zkribbler. These guys come across as genuine moderates, and not zealots like many of the more "illiberal liberal" types on here - who can be liberal today, but neocon tomorrow."A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber
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Originally posted by chegitz guevara
The great irony of all this is, the American political spectrum has shifted so far to the right that conservatism (as defined by AuH2O) is liberal now.
Goldwaterism is only "liberal" today if you focus purely on civil liberties issues, and its not clear that that would have been that different in 1964 (except that at that time the fact that his civil libertarianism led to opposition to fair housing leg made it look conservative)"A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber
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