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Originally posted by Kuciwalker
Halo 1, as you well know.
And you clearly are not aware Halo 1 was played online using additional software.
We're not talking about emulation vs emulation, though. We're talking about feature sets for the retro-gaming download service.
Xbox 360 emulation is still much superior, since you want to bring it up, as it renders games in higher resolutions with FSAA.
"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
Originally posted by Asher
Xbox 360 emulation is still much superior, since you want to bring it up, as it renders games in higher resolutions with FSAA.
That's assuming I actually have an HDTV. And you can't really FSAA an NES game.
Originally posted by Kuciwalker
IIRC there was also an Xbox hack that let you do LAN games over a VPN. Not exactly quality MP...
Not a hack, it allowed you to play any Xbox game online with other people via VPN.
You're squriming an spinning again, young padawan.
Try to focus on the original topic, which is Nintendo's dumb decisions with the VC -- stretching images to fit widescreen TVs and not adding online multiplayer.
This alone shows the Xbox 360 Live Arcade to be a better solution. Playing Double Dragon or Contra online with friends is better than having to have someone right next to you to do it.
"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
Originally posted by Kuciwalker
That's assuming I actually have an HDTV. And you can't really FSAA an NES game.
Again, you're making insanely stupid comments.
You can FSAA and render at higher resolutions N64 and Gamecube games, you know.
Clearly NES games can't be antialiased, but at least the Xbox plays them in a non-distorted aspect ratio.
"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
Wow. This would be very distressing if I had a widescreen TV (well, and if I had a Wii). I'm sure they won't be able to update to remove that auto-stretch, either. Nor will online multiplayer be added at any point, no matter how much gamers complain. Nintendo will merely laugh and step on little puppy dogs in reply.
Oh, and that ars technica site also says Small Arms is a pretty lame, dumbed-down version of SSB. Never played it and never will, so who knows...
Originally posted by Elok
Wow. This would be very distressing if I had a widescreen TV (well, and if I had a Wii). I'm sure they won't be able to update to remove that auto-stretch, either. Nor will online multiplayer be added at any point, no matter how much gamers complain. Nintendo will merely laugh and step on little puppy dogs in reply.
These are pretty brilliant arguments.
Let's break them down removed from sarcasm:
1) Widescreen TVs are outselling 4:3 TVs, and this trend is accelerating rapidly...especially with gamers
2) A future patch could fix EVERYTHING with the stretching. Let's ignore the fact that no such thing was announced and its dumb to do this behaviour in the first place.
3) Nintendo COULD implement online multiplayer in the future! Let's ignore the fact that Microsoft had this from the start when they launched their console a year before Nintendo.
The idea here is Nintendo and Sony are playing catchup in this area, that much is clear. It's a bit ironic considering Kuci's early comment of "if you want to play retro games, get a Wii", when it's not the best implementation of such. In fact, their selection of games is pretty bad.
Oh, and that ars technica site also says Small Arms is a pretty lame, dumbed-down version of SSB. Never played it and never will, so who knows...
Lame, dumbed-down? Sounds like an exact clone to me.
"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
Who cares? IMO, the only way to play Contra or what have you in multiplayer, is to do it with the person sitting next to you. Obviously not everyone feels that way. Should Nintendo have added that feature in? Maybe. I think in the end a relatively small number of people will take advantage of it.
The idea here is Nintendo and Sony are playing catchup in this area, that much is clear. It's a bit ironic considering Kuci's early comment of "if you want to play retro games, get a Wii", when it's not the best implementation of such. In fact, their selection of games is pretty bad.
I agree Sony and Nintendo are playing catchup. I think Sony was desperate to launch the PS3, given the 360's lead, which forced Nintendo's hand. I think this is reflected in some of the decisions made, but maybe I'm wrong.
And to call Nintendo's selection of games "pretty bad", well, it's not like the XBA is all that great. Contra and Mortal Kombat seem the only real classics I can name off the top of my head, and this is after a year of XBL being up and running. The Wii has been out what, around 2 weeks, launching new titles weekly?
Let's take a look at this year's lineup of fall games. What have we got? The big guns of fall in 2006 comprised two Microsoft games and one half-dozen non-exclusive third-party endeavors. There were a few exclusives, mind you, but not enough to do a double take. There just weren't enough original or new games. And the multi-console games such as Tony Hawk's Project 8 and Call of Duty 3, for instance, were much better on the Xbox 360 than the PS3. But were they that good at all? Here's a look at the big titles that have shipped since September on Xbox 360:
Xbox 360 Exclusives:
Gears of War
Viva Pinata
Dead or Alive Extreme 2
On Xbox 360 but not PS3:
Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell Double Agent
WWE Smackdown Vs. Raw 2007
Released on Xbox 360 Before PS3:
F.E.A.R.
Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six: Vegas
Need For Speed Carbon
Marvel Ultimate Alliance
Tony Hawk's Project 8
Call of Duty 3
...
This is not the voice of a Sony fanboy secretly venting. This is the sound of an Xbox 360 diehard gamer getting mad and… worried. I truly don't think Microsoft delayed those four games because it genuinely thought they better served gamers in 2007. Those games were tardy, late, unfinished. Or in some cases, not even close to complete. Was Forza Motorsport 2 ready for a fall release? No way. At E3, Forza Designer Dan Greenawalt said he didn't know when the game would be ready (and in his defense, that team is very ambitious). What about Crackdown? Why was it delayed? What is the strategy there? Does it need even more polish? Then there is Mass Effect. Everyone knows that Mass Effect wouldn't come out this fall, but in its initial statements Microsoft said fall 2006 (while BioWare winked). Clearly, that was just a bluff to "scare" Sony. That game is almost assuredly shipping in fall 2007. And there is Too Human, which at E3, genuinely looked like it needed more work. Too Human should have been delayed.
This fall looks like Microsoft is coasting on Gears of War. And well, if you can coast on Viva Pinata, then coast all you want. The Xbox 360 lineup is thin. Splinter Cell is a very good game, but it may not be the system shifter that Ubisoft hopes it is. And it's an exclusive by default, not by design. That was supposed to ship on PS3. Ubisoft just couldn't get it done in time and didn't have enough people. Dead Or Alive Xtreme 2 is a bummer, and it won't sell a million or even a half million in the next six months. Plus, even if it was awesome, it's a volleyball/butt bumping/tug-of-war/girlfriend simulator. It's super softcore niche material. Viva Pinata is also a very good game, but it's not going to get the hardcore gamer excited. It actually might piss them off a little. "That's a Rare game?" I hear them say. We'll see how it does to attract non-hardcore gamers and kids, you know, the broader audience.
Tony Hawk, Marvel Ultimate Alliance, and Call of Duty 3, well, they are all decent, good or simply just there. These aren't new games, or even new concepts, they're tried and true sequels -- as dull as you can get. Right down the middle of the road. Predictable, unoriginal, and franchise material. I like Tony Hawk, but it looks like I'm in the minority here. And the game is eight years and games old. Call of Duty 3, in my opinion, is particularly disappointing -- at least the single-player campaign is. It's buggy, has bad collision detection all over the place, and doesn't offer a single memorable mission. It feels like it wasn't developed by Infinity Ward. In fact, it wasn't. You can tell. Marvel Ultimate Alliance? The ultimate amount of Marvel characters in the same old Diablo-style button-mashing action-RPG. Fun, yes. Familiar and old? Double yes.
Eh. If I wanted to play retro games as in SNES, I'd do what I'm doing now and emulate for free instead of paying for VC. The whole thing is irrelevant afaic. If people with widescreens want to play the original Legend of Zelda on a platform built for the latest installment for the series, they will be very distressed by Link's incredible obesity, I guess.
WRT online multiplayer, no doubt they are playing catchup. It seems it wasn't super-high on their priorities list. Perhaps they were concentrating more on having actual consoles for people to buy when they released the system?
And, as I've remarked before, SSB's gameplay apparently eludes you. SA is said to be exactly the idiot flashy-colors fest you mistakenly believe SSB to be, and with unresponsive controls to boot.
Originally posted by Asher
This alone shows the Xbox 360 Live Arcade to be a better solution. Playing Double Dragon or Contra online with friends is better than having to have someone right next to you to do it.
I disagree with that, but having the option to do both would be better.
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Originally posted by Verto
On a sidenote, the Wii is reported by Next-Gen Wars to have sold over a million units in two weeks, or 78,000 a day, on average.
Don't know why you have a lot of disappointment with the 360 unless you've never bought a console in its first year before. Compare the 360's 1st year with the PS2's, for instance. Or Gamecube...
With the delay of the PS3 and the supply problems they had, MS delayed a few titles for more polish: eg, Too Human, Forza.
There's also the problem that developers have only had final Xbox 360 devkits now for about 16 months, and the game development cycle is typically 2-3 years. There's still zero games on the Xbox 360 that have been released with a from-the-ground-up-for-the-360 game engine because they're still under development. Much of the upcoming games are based on such technology, and are not ready for primetime.
The author of that blog now begrudingly works for IGN Xbox, but he was the IGN PS2 editor for 6 years so it's not very surprising.
"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
Originally posted by DaShi
I disagree with that, but having the option to do both would be better.
Indeed it is better.
Especially when they add Live vision support to arcade titles for video as well.
"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
Originally posted by Asher
This alone shows the Xbox 360 Live Arcade to be a better solution. Playing Double Dragon or Contra online with friends is better than having to have someone right next to you to do it.
And you call the Wii-fans geeks
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